Redskins Sign Vonnie Holliday

[MTK]

Not sure what signing a rotational guy has to do with trading AH, but hey they've gotta keep the story cookin' somehow.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Not sure what signing a rotational guy has to do with trading AH, but hey they've gotta keep the story cookin' somehow.

I consider this more of Allen saying" F%^& you AH!" than anything else. At this point I would keep AH arounds since nobody wants to touch that "toxic" contract of his and his now displayed shitty attitude. Let him fulfill his contract out(unless you can indeed get a nice trade deal for him
) and let him sit. Keep the guy in limbo in his own self imposed purgatory. He is only hurting his career in the long run. Holliday is a 3-4 man anyway, so he should be a keeper for depth at least and maybe a part time starter.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

I consider this more of Allen saying" F%^& you AH!" than anything else. At this point I would keep AH arounds since nobody wants to touch that "toxic" contract of his and his now displayed shitty attitude. Let him fulfill his contract out(unless you can indeed get a nice trade deal for him
) and let him sit. Keep the guy in limbo in his own self imposed purgatory. He is only hurting his career in the long run. Holliday is a 3-4 man anyway, so he should be a keeper for depth at least and maybe a part time starter.

there are backup QB's making more money over the next 3 years than AH

[BigHairedAristocrat]

ross tucker hasnt been pushing the haynesworth trading story as far as i can tell. this would be new for him. however, even JLC said the viking/skins trade rumors had died down, so i dont know where this came from.

[sandtrapjack]

Wow yet another FA signed over the age of 30.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

yeah not much of a move here. Who knows how this will all work out come training camp. In a 3-4 there is not much room for 15 dlinemen.

So who will make the final roster.

Holliday may or may not.

[KI Skins Fan]

I like the idea of trying out a lot of players at all positions. If they try out enough players, they may find one or two who can help the team to get better. I hope they run tryout players through Redskins Park as if they're on a conveyor belt because it could only help. We were 4-12 last season, folks. Four and Twelve! There is a lot of room for improvement and not much risk of getting worse.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I like the idea of trying out a lot of players at all positions. If they try out enough players, they may find one or two who can help the team to get better. I hope they run tryout players through Redskins Park as if they're on a conveyor belt because it could only help. We were 4-12 last season, folks. Four and Twelve! There is a lot of room for improvement and not much risk of getting worse.

Exactly. :thumb:

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I like the idea of trying out a lot of players at all positions. If they try out enough players, they may find one or two who can help the team to get better. I hope they run tryout players through Redskins Park as if they're on a conveyor belt because it could only help. We were 4-12 last season, folks. Four and Twelve! There is a lot of room for improvement and not much risk of getting worse.

Holliday is a decent player so I don't know why all the fuss about the signing. I know he is older, but his work history is decent for a non starter, and he is experienced with the 3-4, so it was a good signing. It also makes somewhat of a statement with AH that there is going to be real competition for the starting positions and he better get his ass in gear. I would love to see Holliday do very well in August and earn a roster spot over AH. Allen and Shanny are geniuses. THe only way to exorcise the demon of complacency with these guys is some true blue real ass competition. Our roster is filled with a bunch of bums to be honest and I think the FO knows that.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I like the idea of trying out a lot of players at all positions. If they try out enough players, they may find one or two who can help the team to get better. I hope they run tryout players through Redskins Park as if they're on a conveyor belt because it could only help. We were 4-12 last season, folks. Four and Twelve! There is a lot of room for improvement and not much risk of getting worse.

I agree. It's not like we're shelling out big contracts to all these vet signings. Depth/competition. Competition across the board is what Shanny/Allen wanted from the jump. Fine with me. If Holliday can make the team and contribute in the 3-4 for a season or two while helping younger players, then good. If not, we lose hardly a thing for bringing him in.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I agree. It's not like we're shelling out big contracts to all these vet signings. Depth/competition. Competition across the board is what Shanny/Allen wanted from the jump. Fine with me. If Holliday can make the team and contribute in the 3-4 for a season or two while helping younger players, then good. If not, we lose hardly a thing for bringing him in.

When Jimmy Johnson took over as coach of the prostrate Cowboys years ago, he ran players through tryouts and training camp at a remarkable pace. Several players would come in and be quickly evaluated and, if he didn't think they could help, he would cut them and bring in some more. It was a constant cycle.

It turned out, by doing this, he found some players who could help the team. If trying out many players could help JJ and the Cowboys then, why couldn't it help Shanahan and the Redskins now?

[CRedskinsRule]

I think it's better to say it was filled with a bunch of bums. We dropped 10 of 'em off the bat, and now it's probably 50/50, but I'm hoping that the 50 that are bums get their butts in gear now.

[GTripp0012]

I honestly don't know what sort of age decline Holliday has been in the last few seasons, but I think he's had one of the most overlooked, quiet, solid careers in recent memory. His name doesn't come up much when you talk about great defensive linemen in the NFL, but he's been one of the best DL of the decade.

I liken him to Darren Sharper, you know, before he got all that media attention last year.

[GTripp0012]

And to get a job, all he has to do is beat out Greg Peterson for the final DL roster spot. Somehow, I don't think he'll be deined.

[CultBrennan59]

So why don't the skins just consider trading Haynesworth and Andre Carter to the saints for Jammal Brown?