Haynesworth was "awful" (WP) - may not start against Dallas

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

So I guess they'd rather just continue with this soap opera and pay the guy to ride the pine?

Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If he's not part of their plans I really wish they would just move on and cut him loose.

This is why I put this mess more on the team. Not that I'm defending Haynesworth at all, he deserves all that he has gotten. But, if Mike Shanahan wants to continue to stick it to the guy, and prove a point he proved several weeks ago, just cut the guy loose and cut your loses. We could have be done and over with a long time ago if they had traded him or just release him.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

This is why I put this mess more on the team. Not that I'm defending Haynesworth at all, he deserves all that he has gotten. But, if Mike Shanahan wants to continue to stick it to the guy, and prove a point he proved several weeks ago, just cut the guy loose and cut your loses. We could have be done and over with a long time ago if they had traded him or just release him.

His value is at an all time low and everyone knows it. Detroit has a terrible defense and they didn't even want the guy. Jim Swartz knows he's a big pain in the ass first hand. If they're not taking him then who else would?? Right now the only thing to do is keep him.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

So I guess they'd rather just continue with this soap opera and pay the guy to ride the pine?

Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If he's not part of their plans I really wish they would just move on and cut him loose.

Maybe they're looking to get a return on their investment. Letting him walk isn't the smart business move. Yeah I'd like to get rid of this malcontent but it's not my money. If I owned the team he wouldn't be going anywhere so I can understand the front office' position.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Maybe they're looking to get a return on their investment. Letting him walk isn't the smart business move. Yeah I'd like to get rid of this malcontent but it's not my money. If I owned the team he wouldn't be going anywhere so I can understand the front office' position.

Trading him or cutting him would get rid of this soap opera. I don't understand why Shanahan insist on making this an issue. At this point it's all on them.

[12thMan]

Asshatedness. Haha

[InsaneBoost]

Haynesworth needs to be out there. Not saying we can't be good without him, but we are only better with him.

Did I mention the Washington Post is still retarded?

[JWsleep]

Look, one problem we've had around here that's contributed to our long period of suckiness is that players get to do what they want. AH is a well-known jerk. Shanny is making the point that he's not having it, full stop. AH clearly felt he was being treated like a punk by sending him out on 49 plays in game 4. So he half-steps it. Shanny sees this and refuses to back down: he tells the media about it. Now let's see how AH practices this week. If he plays hard, that's that. If not, the saga continues. He doesn't start and gets limited playing time. If he still half-steps it, he's benched.

My prediction is he plays hard for Haslett (the "good cop") and works hard in the game. Shanny can declare victory at that point and off we go. But a key element is, as ace said, winning. Notice how AH seemed to snap in line when we won. Losing allows the guy to pout and bitch. And that's trouble.

As for "just releasing him," I don't think this is such a distraction for the players. Rather, it's a media thing. So long as the team is with Shanny, no big deal. Let AH simmer and let the media spin. Who cares? Now, if there's evidence that it's distracting the team, ok, maybe. But a trade is obviously much more desirable. And, of course, AH playing ball for us is the most desirable. Hopefully, we'll win some games, AH will back off, and Shanny can move on to other things.

[Longtimefan]

FRPLG...Permalink #426 - #431 & #435 of the Skins vs Cards, Preseason week 4 Gameday Thread is proof positive of just how much I'm in agreement with your latest assessment.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

When a journalists lists an unnamed source, I do not think you can assume it was Shanahan especially after his Coaches Show that aired last night. I which he stated that the story was out of control and he did not want it in the media anymore. I would take this as him not wanting these types of stories in the media anymore and to be kept in house.

Another POV instead of looking at this story for face value, would be a type of misinformation he wants out there so the Cowboys are not focusing on AH as a force they need to deal with. (This would be dumb on the Boys part) They should not overlook this guy and I have stated this before.

Jason Ried will print anything he can get out of anyone in the organization to keep this story going as it gives him national recognition. The link to this story is now on ESPN and I am sure a 100 other internet sites.

Let's try and not fuel the fire on this story and wait and see what September 12th holds for AH and the defense.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

When a journalists lists an unnamed source, I do not think you can assume it was Shanahan especially after his Coaches Show that aired last night. I which he stated that the story was out of control and he did not want it in the media anymore. I would take this as him not wanting these types of stories in the media anymore and to be kept in house.

Another POV instead of looking at this story for face value, would be a type of misinformation he wants out there so the Cowboys are not focusing on AH as a force they need to deal with. (This would be dumb on the Boys part) They should not overlook this guy and I have stated this before.

Jason Ried will print anything he can get out of anyone in the organization to keep this story going as it gives him national recognition. The link to this story is now on ESPN and I am sure a 100 other internet sites.

Let's try and not fuel the fire on this story and wait and see what September 12th holds for AH and the defense.

I agree.....and have never trusted media reports that cites un-named sources.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

I agree.....and have never trusted media reports that cites un-named sources.

While I am fine with unnamed sources, I have issues when only one news outlet is reporting something and it's not corroborated by others within a reasonable amount of time. This story started with JLC, then bounced to J. Reid but I hadn't seen the other beat reporters piling on.

[ethat001]

I don't think it's fair for the coaches and team to expect the players to discuss it with the coach if he has a problem, and "keep it within the team"... And then have the coaching staff have J.Reid on speed dial. Shanny's got to assume some responsibility for "leaks" within his staff, if they are credible.

Again, clean this mess up. Let's play football. Hope big Al's out there.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

I agree if MS is in full control of this team, these leaks do come back to him even it is not under his direction to put the information out to the public. He still has the responsibility to control the people in the organization, but how can he control what everyone saws or does not say to the media.

[SmootSmack]

I can't imagine he won't play the majority of the game even if he doesn't start. On an unrelated note, its not entirely un common for teams to draw out an internal source by purposely feeding him fake information, and when it gets out that guy's busted...that's why you should always have more than one source

[CrustyRedskin]

You cant polish a turd, and he is a turd cancer.