Skins need to further invest in the trenches next season

[SFREDSKIN]

Defense allowed 526 yards, 468 yards came at the expense of our secondary. Too much blitzing by our secondary doesn't leave for protection against receivers.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I think our biggest problem so far has been general confusion in the secondary. I mean we're talking 8-10 plays this year where I, with an untrained eye and the lack of game film, have noticed open WRs simply because of poor secondary play. Too many times a guy is released into a zone and there is no safety there to pick up coverage. Either the CBs need to stop releasing everyone or the safeties need to stop biting on the play action or picking up the wrong WR. That has to stop. I know it's new scheme and that is the issue but they HAVE to improve on that.

No doubt -- the obvious problem today was in the secondary. But I don't know if it's a scheme-type problem. Rogers, Hall, and Buchanon make up a veteran group of guys who should be familiar with what Haslett is trying to do. If anything, with as many blitzes as he's called, he's got faith in their abilities.

They just flat got out-classed today. And let's not forget, there were times last season when this same group of guys got torched in the passing game. Another playmaker would be nice, but every now and then you're going to have a potent offense that'll make you look like fools.

[SFREDSKIN]

After today here's what I would do:

Cut Larry Johnson, the game went downhill after he ran backwards and lost 10 yards.

Promote Torain from PS
Cut Roydell Williams
Promote Austin from PS
Start Kareem Moore next week

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

After today here's what I would do:

Cut Larry Johnson, the game went downhill after he ran backwards and lost 10 yards.

Promote Torain from PS
Cut Roydell Williams
Promote Austin from PS
Start Kareem Moore next week

He did fine today though... I take it you would do that to put Torain or Austin on the field, my problem is that Austin is a decent returner, but the even better returner who made the team, Brandon Banks, hasn't even been active yet.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

He did fine today though... I take it you would do that to put Torain or Austin on the field, my problem is that Austin is a decent returner, but the even better returner who made the team, Brandon Banks, hasn't even been active yet.

We need more playmakers, I feel Austin if given the chance would come through. I think Torain is an upgrade to Johnson who is washed up.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

After today here's what I would do:

Cut Larry Johnson, the game went downhill after he ran backwards and lost 10 yards.

Promote Torain from PS
Cut Roydell Williams
Promote Austin from PS
Start Kareem Moore next week

No real upgrades there Fred. IF CP can't get the yardage, do you think Torain can? CP was doing well in the preseason games, only to be stymied when the games count. IF Banks is non existent now, do you really think Austin is going to make a difference? Moore is going to start as soon as he is cleared I am sure.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

No real upgrades there Fred. IF CP can't get the yardage, do you think Torain can? CP was doing well in the preseason games, only to be stymied when the games count. IF Banks is non existent now, do you really think Austin is going to make a difference?

Yep! We need a youth infusion.

[Pocket$ $traight]

I agree. Rabach is garbage (see first quarter), Dock is average at best and we need another stud tackle.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I agree. Rabach is garbage (see first quarter), Dock is average at best and we need another stud tackle.

I can't think of any team with 3 stud tackles (we are ridiculously lucky to have Williams and Brown on the same team). Maybe 2 studs and a good backup but no one has had 3 since the Hogs. Heyer is a decent backup at RT. At LT he's a liability. It would be great though if Capers developed next year at either Guard or Tackle. Preferably Guard since that would be his best chance to start.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I can't think of any team with 3 stud tackles (we are ridiculously lucky to have Williams and Brown on the same team). Maybe 2 studs and a good backup but no one has had 3 since the Hogs. Heyer is a decent backup at RT. At LT he's a liability. It would be great though if Capers developed next year at either Guard or Tackle. Preferably Guard since that would be his best chance to start.

I don't know if Brown is still a "stud". We need him to be cuz Williams is probably at least out two weeks.

Can we trade for Hutchinson!?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I don't know if Brown is still a "stud". We need him to be cuz Williams is probably at least out two weeks.

Can we trade for Hutchinson!?

Brown is a quality starting tackle.

Hutch is a guard.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Brown is a quality starting tackle.

Hutch is a guard.

Thanks Matty. Did you really think that I didn't know that Hutchinson is a guard?

We need a stud guard too, not Dock, who is possibly a hair above average.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I can't think of any team with 3 stud tackles (we are ridiculously lucky to have Williams and Brown on the same team). Maybe 2 studs and a good backup but no one has had 3 since the Hogs. Heyer is a decent backup at RT. At LT he's a liability. It would be great though if Capers developed next year at either Guard or Tackle. Preferably Guard since that would be his best chance to start.

I'd be happy with just 1 stud tackle, right now we have a rookie who's still learning and got manhandled/injured when it counted, a starting RT who also gave up a crucial sack, had a crucial false start, and rotates with the backup RT.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

I agree with what others have said.

We need a G and a C on the Oline, I did not get a good view of this game as I watching it from the CPU and it is a little grainy. Did Kory L get in the game this week?

Our problems on the DL are still some what abudant. AH or not we need a real NT, and another End to go with Carriker. Adam C can be good here.

[Alvin Walton]

A replacement for Rabach.
OL depth
Nose tackle
Help at safety.
Running back.

Ok we need three early first round picks next year........ugh