this team sucks

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by juggernaunt

i have been a loyal redskin fan my entire life, but this team is run like a lemonade stand. we buy and buy everyear and what do we have to show for it nothing.... .

If you don't like the lemonade find another lemonade stand. I'm here for the long haul.

[SKINSnCANES]

im not sure why people want to cut Portis. Our offense has sucked but who would you rather have? He is the third leading rusher in the NFC, and thats with those two poor performances in a row.

We do cut some people, and we have been dumping a lot of our big name busts over teh last few years. The last two free agency periods I think we have done a good job of getting young, up and coming players. With the exception of Brunell. Maybe you could include Barrorw, but the guy is a great player that HAD never had an injury up until this year.

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

im not sure why people want to cut Portis. Our offense has sucked but who would you rather have? He is the third leading rusher in the NFC, and thats with those two poor performances in a row.

I agree, think about it our feature back last year was Trung Canidate!!! And being that we let Davis go, who would you want in our backfield? I think that Portis is haveing an excellent year given the situation that he is in. No passing game and constantly running against 8 and sometimes 9 in the box!! Yet he is ranked 3rd!! in the NFC which has backs like A. Green, T. Barber, S. Alexander, D. McAllister. That is pretty good if you ask me, but that is just my opinion.

[skinsguy]

Like Pittsburgh we could find a Bettis like back and bring him in on short downs or goal line downs and have Portis as the main back. Of course Betts would be getting the raw end of the deal.

[SKINSnCANES]

joe gibbs is the most predictable play called in the league right now. My HS team was harder to game plan then the skins.

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

joe gibbs is the most predictable play called in the league right now. My HS team was harder to game plan then the skins.

I dont think that playcalling is all that important, I mean think about it when the Chiefs have Holmes every team knew what they were going to do, RUN Holmes. The Ravens, when Lewis is healthy every team knows they have to stop Lewis. The Falcons, stop Vick.

Teams are really dangerous when they are like the Colts, Broncos, Packers and so on. With these team if you shut down the run they can still pass on you and if you stop the pass they will run on you.

Look at the Eagles one lose this year, they could not run on the steelers. And the steelers probably knew that, so the steelers figured if they could contain and put pressure on McNabb then they would win by stoping the eagles passing attack.

[SKINSnCANES]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

I dont think that playcalling is all that important, I mean think about it when the Chiefs have Holmes every team knew what they were going to do, RUN Holmes. The Ravens, when Lewis is healthy every team knows they have to stop Lewis. The Falcons, stop Vick.

Teams are really dangerous when they are like the Colts, Broncos, Packers and so on. With these team if you shut down the run they can still pass on you and if you stop the pass they will run on you.

Look at the Eagles one lose this year, they could not run on the steelers. And the steelers probably knew that, so the steelers figured if they could contain and put pressure on McNabb then they would win by stoping the eagles passing attack.

I dont think I agree with that. Its not as obvious as you might think when Holmes gets the ball. The Chiefs do a great job, as do the ravens, of using the fact that teams think they are going to do something then flip it to the TE, which they both have a great one. We dotn setup anything. We call exactly what you think we are going to call. Ill be watching a Skins game, we'll get the ball first and goal. I KNOW we are going to lineup with no receviers on first and second down and hand the ball off twice. We dotn try anythign fancy, we dont even have a wideout to have some sort of an option out there. Then after two failed attemps I know we are going to try and throw it to a TE, but we still might only have one receiver out. The problem with our passing game is that we never gave brunell more than two options to throw at. If both of them were covered whats he supposed to do. They usually dont even let portis pop out and dump it off for a screen pass to keep the D honest.

[LongTimeSkinsFan]

Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

Ill be watching a Skins game, we'll get the ball first and goal. I KNOW we are going to lineup with no receviers on first and second down and hand the ball off twice.

1. The way our O-line has played this year, Joe has to put in the "BIG" package to have half a chance of moving the ball inside the 10. No big secret there. It's also statistically proven that the passing game becomes more difficult inside the 20 because there is less space to operate, so Joe is going to go with what has the best chance of success. It seems so many people love to bash Gibbs play calling whether we abandon the running game or rely on it too heavily. I wish we'd make up our minds!

Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

We dotn try anythign fancy, we dont even have a wideout to have some sort of an option out there. Then after two failed attemps I know we are going to try and throw it to a TE, but we still might only have one receiver out.

2. It's no big secret that Gardner has been one of our most inconsistent receivers the whole year and Coles has been hampered since his injury. Cooley probably is our best pair of hands on the offense so why not throw it to him?

Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

The problem with our passing game is that we never gave brunell more than two options to throw at. If both of them were covered whats he supposed to do. They usually dont even let portis pop out and dump it off for a screen pass to keep the D honest.

3. Failing to mention here that options or not Brunell didn't have the combination of arm strength and accuracy to complete a pass period. We could have run a Spurrier style offense with a half dozen passing options and he still couldn't have completed more than half his attempts.

[skinsguy]

Good point 8588! If we could ever get our passing game opened up, it would force those guys to drop back in coverage and would open up more for Portis.

[Redskins8588]

You may be right but I still think that it comes down to execution on the field.

[MTK]

Gibbs seems to love Coles for his toughness, so I'd say he is a Gibbs kinda guy.

I think this whole needing surgery thing has really been blown out of proportion.

He was told surgery could possibly end his career, so it's obviously not a routine procedure.

I guess if he's a true Redskin he should take that chance? Easy for us to say, but this is his career we're talking about.

[Gmanc711]

The whole Coles thing is a really touchy subject, and I defintley see both sides of the story. I just think its very obvious that Coles dropped off as soon as this toe thing started, so I'm for surgery. But Mattys right, its easy for me to say beacuse I dont have to go through it. I just hope Coles makes the right decision for the team and himself.

[Daseal]

Trade Him. If he won't be the #1 receiver we're paying him to be, then ship him out to somewhere else and try to sign a badass receiver.

[MTK]

Who is going to trade for damaged goods?

[Daseal]

Someone will take him. We won't get a high pick but we'll clear enough cap room to sign another big name receiver.