Haynesworth to Philly?

[sandtrapjack]

I don't see why the prospect of trading anyone is even being brought up by the press.

Can't trade veterans until a new CBA is in place. And if that happens after the draft, then what happens with AH?

Teams are allowed to trade draft picks without a CBA, but they are prohibited from trading players.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

I don't see why the prospect of trading anyone is even being brought up by the press.

Can't trade veterans until a new CBA is in place. And if that happens after the draft, then what happens with AH?

Teams are allowed to trade draft picks without a CBA, but they are prohibited from trading players.

So what happens if the league and players decide agree to keep the current rules in place for another year which gives them more time to come to an agreement? I ask cause this has been bantered on the radio and NFL network. If they agree to this prior to the draft are they elligable to trade players and are players FA's or are they under the same rules that applied this last year which kept some from becoming FA's?

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

So what happens if the league and players decide agree to keep the current rules in place for another year which gives them more time to come to an agreement? I ask cause this has been bantered on the radio and NFL network. If they agree to this prior to the draft are they elligable to trade players and are players FA's or are they under the same rules that applied this last year which kept some from becoming FA's?

That scenario does not make sense actually.

The owners voted unanimously in 2008 to opt out of the current CBA, which means they cannot "extend" the current CBA.

They have to agree on a new CBA before March 5th. If not, there is no free agency signing period, no trades of veterans. The only thing that will happen is the draft.

[Jontrem]

Im not sure what constitutes as "conduct detrimental to the team" anymore but I would think an ongoing refusal to speak to your head coach would count as that, no? So maybe just maybe the Redskins show some back bone and suspend him as often as possible next year and dont trade him for .10 on the dollar.

It would probably turn into a huge distraction though so it probably wouldnt be worth it.....but wow I would enjoy it!

[NC_Skins]

Hate to break to you all, but you are chasing wild geese with these lame scenarios that reporters drum up. I suggest you look up Darryl Gardener and Mike Shanahan to see exactly what is going to happen with Haynesworth.

(in case you are interested)
DT was a disappointment last year - NFL - ESPN

Unless teams are willing to give compensation to Shanny/Allen's satisfaction (most likely a 2nd rounder), then they aren't going to let him go anywhere UNLESS he gives back a big portion of that bonus money or buys out of his contract.

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ot only did they convert the option bonus to a $21-million signing bonus, but they also added a voidable provision. In the provision, if Haynesworth pays back $26 million of his signing bonuses, then the 2011-2014 contract years void away.

That said, if Haynesworth were to default prior to 2011, then $16.8 million would be subject to forfeiture.

Ok, we KNOW three things we can pretty much be assured of.

1) Albert isn't giving money back

2) No team is going to give him 16.8 million in guarantees so he can pay back the Redskins.

3) No team is going to give high compensation (2nd rounder and above) for AH AND have to pay his current salary. The only exception would be a desperate team like we were with Jason Taylor.


Don't plan on AH going anywhere regardless of the bullshit stories.

[Dread-Skin]

I'm building a time machine that I hope can be used to send him back a couple of centuries - thousands of years ago. Maybe he will disapear with other great civilizations. Maybe they too will expect him to measure up to his size but fail due to his.......... (so many words can be used to label why he's worthless and a failure Il just leave it blank).

[diehardskin2982]

I listen to the local DC area sportsradio and you hear people like "just send him away from here", etc.

I find that so stupid -why send a motivated Haynesworth (to kick our ass) to the one man who knows how to use him in the division, so that we can play him twice a year. Not smart.

[Longtimefan]

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[MTK]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

I listen to the local DC area sportsradio and you hear people like "just send him away from here", etc.

I find that so stupid -why send a motivated Haynesworth (to kick our ass) to the one man who knows how to use him in the division, so that we can play him twice a year. Not smart.

yeah and those same morons will be the first to throw everyone under the bus when he plays well against us.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

I listen to the local DC area sportsradio and you hear people like "just send him away from here", etc.

I find that so stupid -why send a motivated Haynesworth (to kick our ass) to the one man who knows how to use him in the division, so that we can play him twice a year. Not smart.

Would you be willing to take that possible motivated but kicking twice a year for a 2nd and conditional 4th? That would essentially be McNabb for Haynesworth straight up. And I know that would not happen, but hypothetically....

We still could trade McNabb and come out a 4th-ish round pick ahead.

[LongTimeSkinsFan]

Personally, I'd like to keep him for the length of the contract- riding the pine or playing so we and the Danny have a stern reminder NEVER to sign a head case like this again and NEVER to let a knucklehead like a Vinny Cerrato be allowed to select personnel for this team again.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by LongTimeSkinsFan

Personally, I'd like to keep him for the length of the contract- riding the pine or playing so we and the Danny have a stern reminder NEVER to sign a head case like this again and NEVER to let a knucklehead like a Vinny Cerrato be allowed to select personnel for this team again.

Hey there is an idea. Can we black list Cerrato like Vegas casinos do to card counters?!?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

I listen to the local DC area sportsradio and you hear people like "just send him away from here", etc.

I find that so stupid -why send a motivated Haynesworth (to kick our ass) to the one man who knows how to use him in the division, so that we can play him twice a year. Not smart.

I don't think he should be sent to a division rival, but he needs to go period. I don't see the point of keeping him here. Some have said (correctly) that it is going to take time to fix Vinny Cerrato's mess, well it is also going to be expensive. Whatever money we lose by trading AH will be well spent by not having this circus here anymore.

Originally Posted by LongTimeSkinsFan

Personally, I'd like to keep him for the length of the contract- riding the pine or playing so we and the Danny have a stern reminder NEVER to sign a head case like this again and NEVER to let a knucklehead like a Vinny Cerrato be allowed to select personnel for this team again.

So the losing seasons and the money they've lost on guys like this are not much of a reminder? Honestly, keeping him on the team makes no sense whatsoever. If Shanahan truly wants to change the culture of this team, he would get rid of this circus of a situation.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

I listen to the local DC area sportsradio and you hear people like "just send him away from here", etc.

I find that so stupid -why send a motivated Haynesworth (to kick our ass) to the one man who knows how to use him in the division, so that we can play him twice a year. Not smart.

Since we are talking hypothetically, If AH was to go to Philly, and if we were to become a true competitive team, it be nice to see us dominate and shut his ass down and remind him what missed out on. He's not the same AH we remember in Tenn. Personally, I don't see him ever being a dominate player ever again. I say make us a deal and he's yours. "Just send him away from here"

[sportscurmudgeon]

Whenever the idea of "Haynesworth in Philly" comes to mind, I remember that Andy Reid lived through the joyous times with Terrell Owens and saw what that kind of presence in a locker room can do to a team.

Then I ask myself:

"Is Andy Reid dumb enough to choose to go through all that again?"

That is why I suspect Big Al will not be an Eagle next year...