Shaun Rogers and Redskins Talking

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by SOUL-SKINS

Browns worse then us??........I'm not so sure.

Their future is brighter but last season I think we were the better team.

[SOUL-SKINS]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Their future is brighter but last season I think we were the better team.

Yeah youre right and that is a hard pill to swallow.....but i think we have a glaring need at nose. Can't hurt to bring him in.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Guy just got released from a team worst then ours? Enough said.

The Browns are moving to a 4-3 defense and probably want to get players that fit the scheme (what a concept!).

Originally Posted by freddyg12

The only reason this is encouraging is that I trust Shanny will give him the Fat Al treatment if he doesn't step up. I really thought Anthony Bryant was impressive in the last couple of games & he looked like starting material. Notice the difference in the D over those games. Let Kemo go, but Don't treat Bryant like Ryan Clark!

You mean create another circus-like atmosphere in an dick-swinging contest? No thanks. I would hope that they would sign him to a low-risk deal, and cut him if he doesn't work out.

I do hope that Rogers could be a good stop-gap to see if Bryant continues to play well or to get a rookie developed.

Although, aren't teams unable to sign free agents due to no CBA?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

The Browns are moving to a 4-3 defense and probably want to get players that fit the scheme (what a concept!).




You mean create another circus-like atmosphere in an dick-swinging contest? No thanks. I would hope that they would sign him to a low-risk deal, and cut him if he doesn't work out.

I do hope that Rogers could be a good stop-gap to see if Bryant continues to play well or to get a rookie developed.

Although, aren't teams unable to sign free agents due to no CBA?

You are right about the context of Rogers' release.

As said elsewhere, those who think of him as dominant perhaps overlook that he was not very good last year, even leaving aside his injuries. IMO Kenyon Coleman, who plays 3-4 DE, would be the better ex-Brown to get.

As for your question, the recently cut Browns became FA's by being cut, not from having lapsed contracts and service years changed by the end of the league year. They also have enough service time to be UFA's. Therefore anyone can sign them now, CBA or not.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

The Browns are moving to a 4-3 defense and probably want to get players that fit the scheme (what a concept!).




You mean create another circus-like atmosphere in an dick-swinging contest? No thanks. I would hope that they would sign him to a low-risk deal, and cut him if he doesn't work out.

I do hope that Rogers could be a good stop-gap to see if Bryant continues to play well or to get a rookie developed.

Although, aren't teams unable to sign free agents due to no CBA?

I mean that Shanny has set the bar on how he expects his players, including vets, to practice & play. Rogers would know he's not coming here to loaf & collect one of danny's big checks.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I mean that Shanny has set the bar on how he expects his players, including vets, to practice & play. Rogers would know he's not coming here to loaf & collect one of danny's big checks.

Excuse me, but once Danny Boy's big fat signing bonus check clears the bank and goes into a player's bank account, that player can loaf and create all kinds of dastardly distractions - - - because once the check is cashed, he has what he wanted from the Redskins. Shanahan can fuss and fume and stomp his feet - - but the money is already in the player's account.

If "getting paid" is at the top of the player's agenda, Shanahan is totally impotent should it come to a confrontation. See Shanny vs Fat Albert last year. If anyone declares Shanahan the winner in that spitting contest, he does not understand what happened and who is in charge of the next move.

Character and self-motivation are the keys to signing useful free agents - - not just stats and Madden ratings and declarations that the guy is "a beast".

Rogers can play very well when he wants to and is healthy. The key part of that is "wants to" because injuries cannot be predicted. The Skins have to figure out just how much he "wants to play" as opposed to "wants to be paid". The failure of the FO to do that over the past decade or so has been a significant part of the team's failures on the field.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Excuse me, but once Danny Boy's big fat signing bonus check clears the bank and goes into a player's bank account, that player can loaf and create all kinds of dastardly distractions - - - because once the check is cashed, he has what he wanted from the Redskins. Shanahan can fuss and fume and stomp his feet - - but the money is already in the player's account.

If "getting paid" is at the top of the player's agenda, Shanahan is totally impotent should it come to a confrontation. See Shanny vs Fat Albert last year. If anyone declares Shanahan the winner in that spitting contest, he does not understand what happened and who is in charge of the next move.

Character and self-motivation are the keys to signing useful free agents - - not just stats and Madden ratings and declarations that the guy is "a beast".

Rogers can play very well when he wants to and is healthy. The key part of that is "wants to" because injuries cannot be predicted. The Skins have to figure out just how much he "wants to play" as opposed to "wants to be paid". The failure of the FO to do that over the past decade or so has been a significant part of the team's failures on the field.

No disagreement about the past decade or so, but this is a new regime.
AH's deal was signed before Allen got here & Allen said he would've never made such a deal. Take a look at some of the former big name vets that were signed last year, did any of them get a large bonus? Not to my knowledge. W. Parker & L. johnson were brought in & cut w/no impact on the team financially.

I see a similar situation w/Rogers. My point is, if they think he's worth signing, he'll have a deal heavy in incentives. If he can get more elsewhere, they won't up the ante for him. While I don't have great confidence in all Shanny's personel decisions, I have confidence in his ability to enforce standards & expectations for his players, we saw that w/AH. I have confidence in Allen as a fiscal conservative of sorts, he's a bargain shopper not an impulse buyer.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I would hope that they would sign him to a low-risk deal, and cut him if he doesn't work out.

Ditto.

[CrustyRedskin]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Guy just got released from a team worst then ours? Enough said.

Lmao!! I bet over pay him and dont get crap out of him. Im just following the redskins free agengy trend. just saying.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Guy just got released from a team worst then ours? Enough said.

Yeah, makes you give it a second thought, but the guy is talented. However, we do not need another AH type sitiuation if he gets all goofy on us.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Thought this merited its own thread. Have heard from a couple different people that Shaun Rogers will be visiting the Redskins over the next couple of days

Shaun Rogers may visit the Redskins | ProFootballTalk

[skinsfaninok]

I don't think the secret service can handle Rodgers guns

[30gut]

Smells like win now to me.....

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Smells like win now to me.....

Nah, I think what you are smelling is leftover from when we gave up a 2nd and 4th rounder for McNabb.

[BleedBurgundy]

If he's motivated and healthy he's a great pickup. Of course that "if" is as big as haynesworth's fat ass...