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[Daseal]

Why is not fair to grade the players? After all they're supposed to be making the plays, right? Wouldn't you grade the players based on performance? Players play, coaches coach. It's all about execution.

Okay - so every losing team simply just didn't execute their coaches plan? Spurrier didn't do well because our players didn't execute? Norv failed because players didn't execute? You can argue that forever, but he makes a good point. Greg Williams made all those defensive players look great when no one knew who they were while Gibbs made some players look great (Cooley) and make others look worse. I agree with a lot of jamf's post.

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Okay - so every losing team simply just didn't execute their coaches plan? Spurrier didn't do well because our players didn't execute? Norv failed because players didn't execute? You can argue that forever, but he makes a good point. Greg Williams made all those defensive players look great when no one knew who they were while Gibbs made some players look great (Cooley) and make others look worse. I agree with a lot of jamf's post.

Spurrier didn't do well because he was running a college system in the NFL. Why do you keep on going back to Spurrier? Norv had no control over his own players. Everyone knows that. Even Spurrier lost some of his players last season.

So I guess Gibbs already failed, right? Norv had what 7 years? And your boy Spurrier quit.

[Daseal]

Redskins_P: Here's the point I'm trying to drive. Every coach in the history of the game can use the excuse "My players didn't execute." If your players throw, catch, block, run like you plan pre-game then of course you win. Jamf makes very good points and it's hard to give the offense a good grade. It wasn't their fault in my eyes, but still they didn't get any real production.

Will Gibbs turn it around - most likely. Do I want him to? Most definitely. Did he do it this year? Absolutely not.

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Redskins_P: Here's the point I'm trying to drive. Every coach in the history of the game can use the excuse "My players didn't execute." If your players throw, catch, block, run like you plan pre-game then of course you win. Jamf makes very good points and it's hard to give the offense a good grade. It wasn't their fault in my eyes, but still they didn't get any real production.

Will Gibbs turn it around - most likely. Do I want him to? Most definitely. Did he do it this year? Absolutely not.

Fair enough Daseal. I see your point. I guess we'll just have to wait till next year to see how much Gibbs has learned after this season.

[MTK]

Here's my quick and dirty report card for '04

QB: C- overall. Ramsey gets a C+, Brunell an F
RB: B
WR: C
TE/h-back: B
OL: C
DL: B+
LB: B+
DB: B+
ST: C+
Coaching: C+

Hard to give any A's, after all this is a 6-10 team.

Offensive MVP: Portis with Coles a close 2nd, honorable mention to Cooley
Offensive rookie of the year: Cooley

Defensive MVP: Griffin, Washington a close 2nd
Defensive rookie of the year: Taylor

Most Disappointing Player: Brunell in a landslide
Most Pleasant Surprise: Cooley

[monk81]

Coaching-playcalling and clock management
COACHES=OFFENSE=D, DEFENSE-A

DEFENSE A they were a BIG surprise and did it without Arrington...Griffin, Pierce, Springs, Washington......EXCELLENT!

OFFENSE D although injury to Jansen played a part.......offensive line was at time.....offensive.....we won't mention Brunell's performance.....and although Portis had a few plays he also disappointed.....Coles showed grit playing hard and playing hurt.....Gardner was a no show.......Thrash wasn't flashy and reliable when Gibbs finally put him in............others were so-so. Cooley became the go to guy.......Red zone play calling and execution were terrible............

Special Teams F-they cost us the Dallas game......at times the opponent had excellent field position=coverage return left much to be desired...the Swedish replacement for Hall was awful......again cost us some games...........thank God Chandler came in...........

I wouldn't dismantle the team.........we need some tweaking on offense, a healthy Jensen will definitely bring an upgrade to the line....a new center, guard, WR....a DE and better execution and maybe some new blood with late late draft rounds or practice squad......