Jim Haslett's inconsist defense

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

If there's one off season move I would like to see the Redskins to make, is to replace Jim Haslett as DC, his defenses drive me nuts. One week they play great, the next week they allow RB's and QB's to run at will. The one thing I've noticed with Haslett is that he has not been able to adjust his defense to scrambling type QB's like Vick, Newton, Webb/Ponder. 2 years now with the same problem and no fix. If Leslie Frazier or Raheem Morris get fired, I would like to see either one as a replacement. Your thoughts?

So, blow up a defense that went from 32 to top 10? Has 2 or 3 rookies playing quite well, a 2nd year LB playing well, one of the best in the NFL on 3rd down, top 5 or 10 in sacks in the NFL??

Yeah, why not blow it up and start over.. and move back to 4-3 with the very good 3-4 personel we have brought in here.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

So, blow up a defense that went from 32 to top 10? Has 2 or 3 rookies playing quite well, a 2nd year LB playing well, one of the best in the NFL on 3rd down, top 5 or 10 in sacks in the NFL??

Yeah, why not blow it up and start over.. and move back to 4-3 with the very good 3-4 personel we have brought in here.

Who said anything about blowing up the D? Switch DC that's all.

[REDSKINS4ever]

The problem with the Redskins on defense is in the secondary. DeAngelo Hall and Josh Wilson have been getting scorched. I'll cut the safeties some slack, since Landry and Atogwe have been hurt, with Gomes and Doughty playing in a reserve role. There's nothing wrong with the defensive linemen or the linebackers. The problem is in the secondary. This is something that needs to be fixed. Mike Shanahan knows it too.

[Defensewins]

I have never been a big Hasslett fan and I am especially talking about before he got here (Redskins). He is not a DC that I would want to go out and get. So I would not cry a river if he is replaced. If a heavy hitter becomes available this offseason I say lets get him. Hasslett is not a negative or positive. I want a DC that will raise the level of play of the entire defense. A real difference maker. Hasslett is not that guy. Just my opinion.

[Big C]

i want to keep a coaching staff together for more than 2 years. we should keep haslett. im tired of constant turnover.

[REDSKINS4ever]

I like Jim Haslett a little. He's a very good defensive coordinator. The defense has move up 19 slots up from a season ago when they were ranked 31st. I'm predicting that the Washington Redskins will be a top 5 defense next season. But in order to do so, the Redskins need far better play in the secondary. Hall and Wilson just didn't cut it this year.

[T.O.Killa]

I am not a huge Haslett fan, but I cant see firing a guy with a to 15 defense, when your son has been leadin an offense that has been terrible for two years.

[rypper11]

The problem with run oriented QB's like Webb, Newton and Vick against the Skins D is the lack of back end speed. None of the safeties are fast enough to get to them and the front seven are all aggressively going for a sack instead of contain. They didn't practice against an option for months (if at all) and when Webb came in they needed to completely throw out the gameplan and start over. Ponder and Peterson were shut down but Webb and Gerhardt are completely different styles of play at their positions. If anyone should be blamed it's Fletcher for knocking Ponder senseless and forcing his backup in (jk).

To repeat what's been said, rebuilding takes time. Don't complain about Snyder's lack of patience in trying to go for a quick fix then want to change coaches if we aren't in the playoffs after two seasons. As much as I want a new OC I know that changing now is tantamount to starting over. Most people on here were saying 3-4 years before we're respectable when MS was hired. It's been two years! Haslett has been going after specific skill sets for "his" schemes (along with MS and Allen). Morris and Frazier both run 4-3's and would want completely different skill sets in their players.

I know we have two months of everyone should be fired before the FA begins but come on. Haslett has made over the front seven into one of the better in the NFL right now and it's mostly young guys.

[skinsfaninok]

Keep JH he's done a solid job

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by backrow

I'm not saying get rid of Jim Useless. Just never wanted him to begin with.


His defensive track record is less than stellar except when he was a player.

Defensive rankings and statistics aside, what was our W-L record last year, and what is it again this year? Anyone? Anyone?


Yea! That's my point!

Really? Gonna blame our d when they weren't the ones turning the ball over 2 to 3 times each game.

[Ruhskins]

I would give Haslett another year. However, the team has invested an awful lot of resources on the defensive side of the ball. If the team is able to field a competent offense, Haslett needs to have his defense step up next season. If not, he should not be back in 2013.

[CultBrennan59]

I'd be curious to see what a guy like Dick LeBeau would be able to do with our defense;whether he would be better worse or the same as haslett using the same personel obviously.

[skinsfan69]

Not a big fan of JH but we just don't have the players to be a great defense. I think the Cofield at NT has been somewhat of a failure. Orakpo is overrated. Kerrigan is a good player, but not great. He's not explosive like the rookie on SF. Even with LL the safties can't cover, and the corners are soft. The defense needs 3 elite players somewhere...whether it's a NT or end with JJ coming back or corner. We just need some elite players, not just average and slightly above average ones. Right now we don't have them.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Not a big fan of JH but we just don't have the players to be a great defense. I think the Cofield at NT has been somewhat of a failure. Orakpo is overrated. Kerrigan is a good player, but not great. He's not explosive like the rookie on SF. Even with LL the safties can't cover, and the corners are soft. The defense needs 3 elite players somewhere...whether it's a NT or end with JJ coming back or corner. We just need some elite players, not just average and slightly above average ones. Right now we don't have them.

I kinda agree with you here. I, too, think Rak is overrated and Cofield has been a bit underwhelming but by no means has he been a bust.

On the whole, I think we have more pieces than not. Right now we're ranked 13th in total defense and quite frankly, I'd take the Skins defense over the defenses ranked 12-10. My point is, I don't think we're that far off.

One thing people tend to not take into consideration when grading the Redskins defense, we have an absolute turnover machine in Rex Grossman, which tends to favor the opponent in time of possession and/or starting field position.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Not a big fan of JH but we just don't have the players to be a great defense. I think the Cofield at NT has been somewhat of a failure. Orakpo is overrated. Kerrigan is a good player, but not great. He's not explosive like the rookie on SF. Even with LL the safties can't cover, and the corners are soft. The defense needs 3 elite players somewhere...whether it's a NT or end with JJ coming back or corner. We just need some elite players, not just average and slightly above average ones. Right now we don't have them.

Uh...have you watched this years games? Cofield has been stellar at NT given this is his first year ever playing that position, which leads me to believe given another year he'll be fantastic. Orakpo..overated..really?? People are looking at stats, and you have to consider Kerrigan is getting some sacks, Bowen has like 6 or 7, cofield, neild all have contributed to the sack total. Raks sacks will naturally be down given the production increase of surrounding players. I am not seeing anything true in any of the statements you have made. We have elite players on the D, Rak is only 3 years in, but made 2 probowls his first 2 years. Fletch is elite, leads the NFL in tackles at 36, I believe Hall has done a decent job.. but corners are effected by the safties, and we haven't had any help from Landry or #20 all season. Give these guys another off season, add some talent around them and we'll be a top 5 unit. We'll never be an elite D if we keep changing coaches and schemes every damn two years. I am sick of the constant change