Peyton manning cleared to play

[skins89moss]

I also believe the Colts have made their minds up already to move forward without Peyton. The owner cleaned house and has his new coaching staff ready to start the Andrew Luck era. As far as the Redskins QB situation if Peyton is healthy we need to take a long look at him. The big question is which team would Peyton prefer to play for and how much would it cost to sign him. I rather take a healthy Peyton than give up multiple draft picks for RGIII who has never taken a NFL snap. The odds are RGIII will never be as good as Peyton Manning. The problem for us is we pick a #6 spot in the draft and only 2 QB's are worthy of a top 5 pick. We all know Luck is off the board at pick #1 so thus leaving only RGIII to at least 4 teams ( Browns, Redskins, Dolphins,Seahawks) looking for a franchise QB. The Rams will use every trick in the book to get 1 of those teams to bid against each other to raise the stock in the #2 pick. I think we have to many areas of need to give up so many picks to move up to pick#2. its a huge risk.

How about this if the Browns pick RGIII , would the Redskins be interested in giving up a 2nd or 3rd for Colt McCoy? I would try to get him for a 3rd pick and we could use a later rd pick on maybe Russell Wilson to compete for the starting job. We could use our 1st rd pick on a O-lineman, CB, or trade back for more picks.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

I will punch a hole through Shanny's face if we end up with Colt McCoy. He was a 3rd round pick then and has done nothing to warrant us giving a 5th for him let alone 2nd or 3rd.

[goskins424]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I will punch a hole through Shanny's face if we end up with Colt McCoy. He was a 3rd round pick then and has done nothing to warrant us giving a 5th for him let alone 2nd or 3rd.

HAHAHAHA.......I was thinking the same thing.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by goskins424

HAHAHAHA.......I was thinking the same thing.

man...first post over 4 years after joining. Earthquake and Colt have quite an effect on people

[goskins424]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

man...first post over 4 years after joining. Earthquake and Colt have quite an effect on people

Haha, I am a quiet guy by nature and I guess it just translates the boards as well, and I take this time to personally thank you SS, Matty and everyone else for the quality posts that have kept me entertained and informed over the last 4 years. Hopefully I am turning a page and will someday get out of this NEWB avatar. But you're also correct, if the brass thinks that Colt is the answer to anything I will think chaos theory makes more sense than the thinking of the Redskins FO. Not to say that they currently aren't far off.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

man...first post over 4 years after joining. Earthquake and Colt have quite an effect on people

What can I say? I'm a winner.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by skins89moss

I also believe the Colts have made their minds up already to move forward without Peyton. The owner cleaned house and has his new coaching staff ready to start the Andrew Luck era. As far as the Redskins QB situation if Peyton is healthy we need to take a long look at him. The big question is which team would Peyton prefer to play for and how much would it cost to sign him. I rather take a healthy Peyton than give up multiple draft picks for RGIII who has never taken a NFL snap. The odds are RGIII will never be as good as Peyton Manning. The problem for us is we pick a #6 spot in the draft and only 2 QB's are worthy of a top 5 pick. We all know Luck is off the board at pick #1 so thus leaving only RGIII to at least 4 teams ( Browns, Redskins, Dolphins,Seahawks) looking for a franchise QB. The Rams will use every trick in the book to get 1 of those teams to bid against each other to raise the stock in the #2 pick. I think we have to many areas of need to give up so many picks to move up to pick#2. its a huge risk.

How about this if the Browns pick RGIII , would the Redskins be interested in giving up a 2nd or 3rd for Colt McCoy? I would try to get him for a 3rd pick and we could use a later rd pick on maybe Russell Wilson to compete for the starting job. We could use our 1st rd pick on a O-lineman, CB, or trade back for more picks.

He is NOT healthy, I guarantee you that. No one that has had 3 neck fusion surgeries in 10 months is healthy at this point or IMO even by the beginning of next season. And I will bet everything I own on the fact that he will never play at as high a level as he has in the past IF he even ever plays again at all. I know everyone is enamored with the fact that we could get him for cash instead of picks, but I just think it is not the direction we should be going.

Let's say this happens:

1) We sign Peyton Manning and draft Tannehill in the draft.
2) Peyton starts game 1 of the season, takes a big hit and is knocked out for the season and possibly career because of his previous history with neck issues.
3) Tannehill or possible other QB on the roster starts? Tannehill would not be ready, and a back up would most likely not be able to sustain what is necessary to win many games.

Where are we now? Out a lot of cash and not in a position to have a viable QB leading our team once again. And I'm not saying I am only for trading up and giving away picks for a top level QB, I am just saying I'm not for taking a risk on Manning.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

He is NOT healthy, I guarantee you that. No one that has had 3 neck fusion surgeries in 10 months is healthy at this point or IMO even by the beginning of next season. And I will bet everything I own on the fact that he will never play at as high a level as he has in the past IF he even ever plays again at all. I know everyone is enamored with the fact that we could get him for cash instead of picks, but I just think it is not the direction we should be going.

Let's say this happens:

1) We sign Peyton Manning and draft Tannehill in the draft.
2) Peyton starts game 1 of the season, takes a big hit and is knocked out for the season and possibly career because of his previous history with neck issues.
3) Tannehill or possible other QB on the roster starts? Tannehill would not be ready, and a back up would most likely not be able to sustain what is necessary to win many games.

Where are we now? Out a lot of cash and not in a position to have a viable QB leading our team once again. And I'm not saying I am only for trading up and giving away picks for a top level QB, I am just saying I'm not for taking a risk on Manning.

You can use that same scenario with ANYBODY. Any player in the NFL has a chance to get knocked out of the game in one play. Peyton has been playing with this neck injury since 2004 so not sure why he's so fragile now. The guy hasn't missed a single game, now all of a sudden, we have him going out in 1 game.

You draft RGIII and use a ton of picks. He tears his ACL on first game, we didn't have the adequate talent on our team to carry on because we gave up all of our draft picks this year and some of next. See, I can do the same scenario. That high draft pick we would have had the following year is now some other teams because we decided to sell the farm.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

You can use that same scenario with ANYBODY. Any player in the NFL has a chance to get knocked out of the game in one play. Peyton has been playing with this neck injury since 2004 so not sure why he's so fragile now. The guy hasn't missed a single game, now all of a sudden, we have him going out in 1 game.

You draft RGIII and use a ton of picks. He tears his ACL on first game, we didn't have the adequate talent on our team to carry on because we gave up all of our draft picks this year and some of next. See, I can do the same scenario. That high draft pick we would have had the following year is now some other teams because we decided to sell the farm.

But that's not my point. Yes any player can have a career ending injury on any play at any point in a game. Peyton Manning has a substantially higher risk for getting a career ending injury than a fully healthy player. He has had three neck surgeries in the last 10 months. Not in 2004. His spinal stenosis is a degenerative disease that gets worse, not better.

You have to agree that with his spinal stenosis and three spinal fusions, the chances of him getting knocked out permanently on ANY hit, not necessarily a vicious hit, are exponentially increased.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Peyton Manning has a substantially higher risk for getting a career ending injury than a fully healthy player.

Base on what evidence?

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

He is NOT healthy, I guarantee you that. No one that has had 3 neck fusion surgeries in 10 months is healthy at this point or IMO even by the beginning of next season. And I will bet everything I own on the fact that he will never play at as high a level as he has in the past IF he even ever plays again at all. I know everyone is enamored with the fact that we could get him for cash instead of picks, but I just think it is not the direction we should be going.

Let's say this happens:

1) We sign Peyton Manning and draft Tannehill in the draft.
2) Peyton starts game 1 of the season, takes a big hit and is knocked out for the season and possibly career because of his previous history with neck issues.
3) Tannehill or possible other QB on the roster starts? Tannehill would not be ready, and a back up would most likely not be able to sustain what is necessary to win many games.

Where are we now? Out a lot of cash and not in a position to have a viable QB leading our team once again. And I'm not saying I am only for trading up and giving away picks for a top level QB, I am just saying I'm not for taking a risk on Manning.

WOW, where in the world did you get your MD? CJU?

Whew, so relieved to know we have some inside information here at the warpath. SmootSmack is one thing, but this guy IS PEYTONS SHOULDER!!!!! FANTASTIC!!!!!!

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

WOW, where in the world did you get your MD? CJU?

Whew, so relieved to know we have some inside information here at the warpath. SmootSmack is one thing, but this guy IS PEYTONS SHOULDER!!!!! FANTASTIC!!!!!!

I'm not a doctor. Teacher. They are close enough right? I guess it's forbidden to have a bit of fun around here nowadays... I suppose I have to have more posts under my belt to be over the top around here?

I try to make honest, common sense conversation around here most of the time. At least I'm not johnny5dickey...

[los panda]

was he ever able to throw farther than 80 yards? 70 yards? wake me up when he's slinging it

[Giantone]

......I know Eli is relieved.

[SmootSmack]

Colts are going to be releasing a statement today basically countering the claim that Manning is cleared to play