Cowboys DT charged with Intoxicated Manslaughter

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

The league is just a microcosm of society in general. These guys aren't above doing stupid things just like the rest of us.

This. It's sad of course. We hear about it because he's a professional football player. Unfortunately families we hear nothing about go through this all the time. I don't drink but I do go out with people who do. I'm always happy to be the DD because I'd hate to see something like this happen to a friend...or anyone for that matter. Unfortunately people don't always think ahead. If you know you're going to be drinking...set up a ride before hand if possible. If not...call a cab.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

The league is just a microcosm of society in general. These guys aren't above doing stupid things just like the rest of us.

Very true. But those of us who don't make such stupid decisions can look down their noses at those who do, NFL players or otherwise. Driving drunk is f'ing retarded and you deserve your fate if you do it.

I'm not directing this at you, Matty. I just hate stupid people.

[SmootSmack]

It exists just not as effectively promoted to the players as it once was I'll bet a lot od players don't even know about it

[redskins5044]

I just saw on ESPN, that the cowboys released Josh Brent. I just hope they still continue to help him with a support system, I understand he committed a crime but his best friend died in the wreck. Watching the reporters surround him after he was released asking questions about his friend was sick to me.

Bottom line he deserves what comes his away as far as jail time or whatever, but his emotional state is probably fragile. NFL needs to support him as far as counseling goes and keep a close eye on him because he could become suicidal.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by redskins5044

I just saw on ESPN, that the cowboys released Josh Brent. I just hope they still continue to help him with a support system, I understand he committed a crime but his best friend died in the wreck. Watching the reporters surround him after he was released asking questions about his friend was sick to me.

Bottom line he deserves what comes his away as far as jail time or whatever, but his emotional state is probably fragile. NFL needs to support him as far as counseling goes and keep a close eye on him because he could become suicidal.

That is the biggest pussy post I've ever seen. Support system? The guy killed a man due to his negligence. He deserves to be stoned and cast out to sea. Fragile mental state, give me a f'ing break.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

That is the biggest pussy post I've ever seen. Support system? The guy killed a man due to his negligence. He deserves to be stoned and cast out to sea. Fragile mental state, give me a f'ing break.

Agreed 100%.

He's a worthless human being. He chose to get drunk. This murder was a conscious decision, not a mistake or the fault of the alcohol. Unless he has some major learning disability, he knew getting drunk and driving is a dangerous DECISION. He's no victim, he did this to himself and to the man he killed, who pretty much provided the nails to his own coffin by riding with a drunk. They're not heroes or victims, they're people who chose to partake in knowingly dangerous, illegal and just plain stupid actions at their own free will.

The families may need support systems, but this murderer needs prison time so he cant be on the streets to kill someone else.

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Plus he was drunk...not in the right mind seems like a fair conclusion.

I hate that excuse. He was in the right mind when he bought the drinks. Whatever happens after that is his own fault.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Agreed 100%.

He's a worthless human being. He chose to get drunk. This murder was a conscious decision, not a mistake or the fault of the alcohol. Unless he has some major learning disability, he knew getting drunk and driving is a dangerous DECISION. He's no victim, he did this to himself and to the man he killed, who pretty much provided the nails to his own coffin by riding with a drunk. They're not heroes or victims, they're people who chose to partake in knowingly dangerous, illegal and just plain stupid actions at their own free will.

The families may need support systems, but this murderer needs prison time so he cant be on the streets to kill someone else.





I hate that excuse. He was in the right mind when he bought the drinks. Whatever happens after that is his own fault.

I was responding about how he acted after the accident.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Agreed 100%.

He's a worthless human being. He chose to get drunk. This murder was a conscious decision, not a mistake or the fault of the alcohol. Unless he has some major learning disability, he knew getting drunk and driving is a dangerous DECISION. He's no victim, he did this to himself and to the man he killed, who pretty much provided the nails to his own coffin by riding with a drunk. They're not heroes or victims, they're people who chose to partake in knowingly dangerous, illegal and just plain stupid actions at their own free will.

The families may need support systems, but this murderer needs prison time so he cant be on the streets to kill someone else.

I hate that excuse. He was in the right mind when he bought the drinks. Whatever happens after that is his own fault.

If you were texting while driving and it resulted in the death of your passenger, should you be charged with manslaughter? What if the passanger was encouraging you to respond to a text?

Unless Brown unwillingly, unknowingly or unconsciously got in the car with Brent, he was putting himself in danger. What happened was extremely unfortunate but all too common. At the end of the day it was just 2 guys that went out and got drunk, and then foolishly, yet willing, got into a car and individually put themselves in danger.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

If you were texting while driving and it resulted in the death of your passenger, should you be charged with manslaughter? What if the passanger was encouraging you to respond to a text?

Unless Brown unwillingly, unknowingly or unconsciously got in the car with Brent, he was putting himself in danger. What happened was extremely unfortunate but all too common. At the end of the day it was just 2 guys that went out and got drunk, and then foolishly, yet willing, got into a car and individually put themselves in danger.

1. why not?
2. the passenger is more than welcome to respond to the text for me

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Agreed 100%.

He's a worthless human being. He chose to get drunk. This murder was a conscious decision, not a mistake or the fault of the alcohol. Unless he has some major learning disability, he knew getting drunk and driving is a dangerous DECISION. He's no victim, he did this to himself and to the man he killed, who pretty much provided the nails to his own coffin by riding with a drunk. They're not heroes or victims, they're people who chose to partake in knowingly dangerous, illegal and just plain stupid actions at their own free will.

The families may need support systems, but this murderer needs prison time so he cant be on the streets to kill someone else.

I hate that excuse. He was in the right mind when he bought the drinks. Whatever happens after that is his own fault.

I think Brent deserves whatever punishment comes to him, including living with the guilt of causing his friend's death.

That being said, although I hate to pile on someone who has passed on, Brown was no innocent bystander in this situation. As he also drank and got in the car with someone that was drunk. He paid for that mistake with his life and that is tragic.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by redskins5044

I just saw on ESPN, that the cowboys released Josh Brent. I just hope they still continue to help him with a support system, I understand he committed a crime but his best friend died in the wreck. Watching the reporters surround him after he was released asking questions about his friend was sick to me.

Bottom line he deserves what comes his away as far as jail time or whatever, but his emotional state is probably fragile. NFL needs to support him as far as counseling goes and keep a close eye on him because he could become suicidal.

Originally Posted by Schneed10

That is the biggest pussy post I've ever seen. Support system? The guy killed a man due to his negligence. He deserves to be stoned and cast out to sea. Fragile mental state, give me a f'ing break.

My feelings lie somewhere between these two opinions. I don't think the NFL or Cowboys need to be involved, but I certainly would hope that one or two of his fellow players would be involved with him as he copes with the consequences of his decisions. He will be found guilty, and do whatever the state finds appropriate, and he needs to accept that responsibility.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by redskins5044

I just saw on ESPN, that the cowboys released Josh Brent. I just hope they still continue to help him with a support system, I understand he committed a crime but his best friend died in the wreck. Watching the reporters surround him after he was released asking questions about his friend was sick to me.

Bottom line he deserves what comes his away as far as jail time or whatever, but his emotional state is probably fragile. NFL needs to support him as far as counseling goes and keep a close eye on him because he could become suicidal.

I wouldn't support him through shit. It is his own fault. He can rot in jail for all I care.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by redskins5044

I just saw on ESPN, that the cowboys released Josh Brent. I just hope they still continue to help him with a support system, I understand he committed a crime but his best friend died in the wreck. Watching the reporters surround him after he was released asking questions about his friend was sick to me.

Bottom line he deserves what comes his away as far as jail time or whatever, but his emotional state is probably fragile. NFL needs to support him as far as counseling goes and keep a close eye on him because he could become suicidal.

I just read that Brent is still technically a cowboy. In this situation, the cowboys must wait for a ruling from Roger Goodell and any other penalties/restrictions on Brent before they make a move on releasing / inactivating him. They do not expect him to return in regular capacity as a player anytime soon.

There is some speculation that Brent, who will likely avoid jail time, will go into some sort of counciling/therapy program paid for by the cowboys, and that the cowboys want to retain rights to Brent, and even Jason Garrett was quoted one hour ago saying that Brent was "absolutley" still on the team's plans and that they wanted Brent to feel welcome and comforted, that he knows he committed a terrible act and that is worse than any penalty anyone can deal out. The article closed in saying that this situation was different than when a player goes out and committs a drunken or drug fueled act, this is just tragically poor judgement that cost the life of a friend...

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by redskins5044

I just saw on ESPN, that the cowboys released Josh Brent. I just hope they still continue to help him with a support system, I understand he committed a crime but his best friend died in the wreck. Watching the reporters surround him after he was released asking questions about his friend was sick to me.

Bottom line he deserves what comes his away as far as jail time or whatever, but his emotional state is probably fragile. NFL needs to support him as far as counseling goes and keep a close eye on him because he could become suicidal.

Did you confuse the news about him being released from jail?

[redskins5044]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Did you confuse the news about him being released from jail?

I think I did.