Thread Series: The case for/against Tyrann Mathieu

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

touchy on an opinion web-article arent we?

I don't know whom you are speaking to directly but if you say someone has a low NFL/football IQ I would take that as a personal attack.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I don't know whom you are speaking to directly but if you say someone has a low NFL/football IQ I would take that as a personal attack.

or probably just an opinion, much like the article. Sorry if I expect a little more to back up that opinion than a stomp my feet and say hey i can see what you write.

When it comes to football opinions, it shouldnt be taken personal.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I don't know whom you are speaking to directly but if you say someone has a low NFL/football IQ I would take that as a personal attack.

Yeah no need for that. I thought the article raised some valid points.

[MTK]

His size concerns me as well. The guy is a flea at 5'9 186. He would be a joke at safety. Concerns about his lack of strength are legit too when you're talking about having to jam WRs.

[Ruhskins]

I'd like to see the Skins get bigger guys in the secondary. If we draft Mathieu, it wouldn't be the end of the world, though I'd prefer to use a 4th or lower on him.

[MTK]

I wouldn't be surprised if TM ends up just being a return man in the NFL and maybe a dime corner at best. I dunno, I'm just not overly impressed with the guy.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I wouldn't be surprised if TM ends up just being a return man in the NFL and maybe a dime corner at best. I dunno, I'm just not overly impressed with the guy.

He very well could. I think he has the ability to be a defensive Devin Hester (as opposed to playing offense like what Hester does now). His return ability is unquestioned. Just YouTube tyrann mathieu Georgia and see how great of a returner he is.

[firstdown]

If you look at his highlight film from the first page of this thread not many of those HL are him dropping back in coverage. He is a ball hawk but I don't think guys trun the ball over near as much in the NFL.

[diehardskin2982]

We talk about Tyrann's size like the skins aren't currently bringing in a 5'9" 180 Antoine Winfield in to visit. SMH, Not every corner is going to be the size of Richard Sherman, nor do they have to be.

Josh Wilson is the same height as Mathieu and only 2 pounds heavier. It not the size of the dog in the NFL, but the fight in the dog and Tyrann has alot of fight.

Also I wouldn't base bringing him in off the fact that a WR carried him into theendzone on one play. That is one great play by Da’Rick Rogers. If we thought like that Laron Landry wouldn't be an enforcer as a safety because he got ran over by Brandon Jacobs once. The cornerback position is about instincts more than any other position on the field. That is why i would not hessitate in getting him in the third on draft day.


We don't face Megatron every sunday, we may not face him every 2-4 years, so if ur looking for a megatron beater, that is silly.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

We talk about Tyrann's size like the skins aren't currently bringing in a 5'9" 180 Antoine Winfield in to visit. SMH, Not every corner is going to be the size of Richard Sherman, nor do they have to be.

Josh Wilson is the same height as Mathieu and only 2 pounds heavier. It not the size of the dog in the NFL, but the fight in the dog and Tyrann has alot of fight.

Also I wouldn't based him being undersized off the fact a WR carried him into the endzone on one play. That is one great play by Da’Rick Rogers. We don't face Megatron every sunday, we may not face him every 2-4 years, so if ur looking for a megatron beater, that is silly.

Those are good points.

IMO his size, off field red flags and lack of college football experience makes him a no pick or a 5th through 7th round pick. There is better talent out there.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Those are good points.

IMO his size, off field red flags and lack of college football experience makes him a no pick or a 5th through 7th round pick. There is better talent out there.

I wouldn't say he has a lack of college football experience, and I have been saying since his Sophomore year, I will not hesitate to draft him in the 2nd, 3rd, whenever. If he is our guy or the guy Shanny wants better a round "too" early than a pick too late.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

We talk about Tyrann's size like the skins aren't currently bringing in a 5'9" 180 Antoine Winfield in to visit. SMH, Not every corner is going to be the size of Richard Sherman, nor do they have to be.

Josh Wilson is the same height as Mathieu and only 2 pounds heavier. It not the size of the dog in the NFL, but the fight in the dog and Tyrann has alot of fight.

Also I wouldn't base bringing him in off the fact that a WR carried him into theendzone on one play. That is one great play by Da’Rick Rogers. If we thought like that Laron Landry wouldn't be an enforcer as a safety because he got ran over by Brandon Jacobs once. The cornerback position is about instincts more than any other position on the field. That is why i would not hessitate in getting him in the third on draft day.


We don't face Megatron every sunday, we may not face him every 2-4 years, so if ur looking for a megatron beater, that is silly.

Very good points. As Daniel Jeremiah and Matt miller of nflnetwork and nfldraftscout said yesterday, a lot of prospects have a bad game. Manti against bama, Luke Joeckel against Florida, Eric fisher against ball state, Kenny vaccaro vs ok state. Calvin Johnson had a bad game against Georgia. All prospects have a bad game or below par game.

[MTK]

Tyrann Mathieu is a second-round talent; three potential NFL fits - NFL.com

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Tyrann Mathieu is a second-round talent; three potential NFL fits - NFL.com

Mathieu is pretty much a no-brainer to me if he's still available in the third round.

[NC_Skins]

**** no. I'm absolutely tired of knuckle heads on this team. We have lead the league in suspensions and penalties the past year or so. No more. Time to do better and this guy isn't it.