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Old 09-09-2013, 11:15 PM   #1
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If they werent going to use the read option often (and I think they called it about 3-4 times the whole game) and they were going to keep RG3 in the pocket to protect him (which they did the whole game), they should have spread it out and thrown it around in the first half. The under center run game protects RG3, but it plays right into Philadelphia's hands, as it mitigates the talent discrepancy on the field.

Philadelphia is going to have a lot more room to overcome mistakes the whole season because they run so many damn plays. As long as Shanny is our coach and Kelly is theirs, we're going to be at a schematic disadvantage. So we needed to take advantage of having a lot more talent than them and try to get Bradley Fletcher and Patrick Chung covering Hankerson & Robinson down the field, we simply didn't do that.

Helu is a really good player in the Redskins spread offense concepts. Really strong picking up the blitz. Can win one on ones on the outside as a receiver. If Morris starts like he did tonight, we can roll with Helu and the passing game in the future. Changing the RB was the single best offensive adjustment we made in the game, and allowed us to take advantage of the mismatches we had all over the field. Only problem was, we were too slow with the adjustment.
Yeah I don't know who it was on the last TD but they got totally exposed, why did we wait so long to get the downfield game going? I guess they were hoping if they stuck with the run things would open up downfield, and would slow down the tempo of the game, unfortunately between penalties, short gains, sacks and turnovers, we weren't getting the first downs. Those early fumbles really hurt us, RG3's rustiness would not have been such a problem I it weren't for those two plays.
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0-1 isn't anything to get worked up about, as the first week tends to be the least predictive. Anyone remember how good the 2011 Redskins played in the opener?

0-2 is a different story. If this is a playoff team, we'll take a lot of frustration from this first half out on Green Bay. Problem is, they're looking to do the same thing to us. There's no such thing as a must win in the first two weeks, but even good teams that begin 0-2 usually don't recover to make the playoffs.
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0-1 isn't anything to get worked up about, as the first week tends to be the least predictive. Anyone remember how good the 2011 Redskins played in the opener?

0-2 is a different story. If this is a playoff team, we'll take a lot of frustration from this first half out on Green Bay. Problem is, they're looking to do the same thing to us. There's no such thing as a must win in the first two weeks, but even good teams that begin 0-2 usually don't recover to make the playoffs.
Next week is a real bad match up for us.
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Next week is a real bad match up for us.
We can win it if we score points.

Profound, I know, but Rodgers isn't quite the same player he was two years ago, and I think our defense can give them some problems. They're not going to hold GB under 20 points, but if we can get a quick 14 in the first half, I think they'll take them down to the wire.
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We can win it if we score points.

Profound, I know, but Rodgers isn't quite the same player he was two years ago, and I think our defense can give them some problems. They're not going to hold GB under 20 points, but if we can get a quick 14 in the first half, I think they'll take them down to the wire.
Rodgers is still one of the best, if not the best QB in the NFL.
Packers will find ways to get Randall Cobb in isolated situations with Rambo, I am not liking Rambo's chances.
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Rodgers is still one of the best, if not the best QB in the NFL.
Packers will find ways to get Randall Cobb in isolated situations with Rambo, I am not liking Rambo's chances.
He's still the best, but he's no longer so good that you pencil in 24 points against simply because you have Green Bay on the schedule. Defenses have a chance now.
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We can win it if we score points.

Profound, I know, but Rodgers isn't quite the same player he was two years ago, and I think our defense can give them some problems. They're not going to hold GB under 20 points, but if we can get a quick 14 in the first half, I think they'll take them down to the wire.
I hope we can take advantage of a GB's weakness (no running game, suspect secondary, and mediocre offensive line). Biggest challenges will be to slow down Rodgers and contain Clay Matthews. Also, I'm a bit concerned about having to defend Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb.
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I hope we can take advantage of a GB's weakness (no running game, suspect secondary, and mediocre offensive line). Biggest challenges will be to slow down Rodgers and contain Clay Matthews. Also, I'm a bit concerned about having to defend Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb.
GB is good, but if the Redskins are really out to prove that tonight was an aberration, that shouldn't matter.

I'm not going to panic at 0-1, but poor coaching, spotty quarterback play, poor tackling, and miscues from young players who we've leaned on before like Forbath and Morris are the kind of things that would suggest this isn't an aberration.

If those things are solved, this game should be a non-issue in six days when we're 1-1 and beat one of the top teams on the schedule. If they aren't, we're going to be 0-2 and frankly, not a good team. A lot on the line next week.
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0-1 isn't anything to get worked up about, as the first week tends to be the least predictive. Anyone remember how good the 2011 Redskins played in the opener?

0-2 is a different story. If this is a playoff team, we'll take a lot of frustration from this first half out on Green Bay. Problem is, they're looking to do the same thing to us. There's no such thing as a must win in the first two weeks, but even good teams that begin 0-2 usually don't recover to make the playoffs.
2007 New York Giants..
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2007 New York Giants..
Only one team in the last 5 years. That is not good for the Redskins then.
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2007 New York Giants..
One famous exception to the rule.

2002 Tennessee Titans started the season 1-4.

And that's about it for recent examples. Unless you start counting 8-8 teams that made the postseason. It's not uncommon for good teams to start 0-2 and then play 8-6 the rest of the way, that happens all the time. But its a pretty bad plan for making the playoffs.
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0-1 isn't anything to get worked up about, as the first week tends to be the least predictive. Anyone remember how good the 2011 Redskins played in the opener?

0-2 is a different story. If this is a playoff team, we'll take a lot of frustration from this first half out on Green Bay. Problem is, they're looking to do the same thing to us. There's no such thing as a must win in the first two weeks, but even good teams that begin 0-2 usually don't recover to make the playoffs.
This. I don't think I'd be nearly as upset/concerned about this... if we didn't have to go to Green Bay next week. This is the territory that comes with winning the division though and playing a tougher schedule. Still, we gotta find a way to go 2-2 going into our bye. I think Detroit and Oakland are both winnable games. Green Bay is tough...

The one saving grace is... I think the winner of the NFC East might be 9-7. The Eagles were really impressive for a half, but otherwise, I don't think any of the four NFC East teams really looked that great in week one.

It's a long season, I was encouraged by the second half....but man I really wish we didn't have to play the Packers thsi week.
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Devestated. I will not forget this game. How do we rebound, have an early bye, and play out this shedule when we drop games to lesser teams? I feel so blindsided by this loss.

Next weeks packer game isn't even being televised in the Bmore area, instead they are showing 'Romeo must die'.

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Devestated. I will not forget this game. How do we rebound, have an early bye, and play out this shedule when we drop games to lesser teams? I feel so blindsided by this loss.

Next weeks packer game isn't even being televised in the Bmore area, instead they are showing 'Romeo must die'.

FML.
A lot of good teams struggle the opening week. Especially ones with a quarterback coming off a surgery.
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It looked like RG3 seemed to shake the rust off in the second half, hopefully that carries over to next week. Just a slow start and our defense being the first to be introduced to Chip Kelly's up-tempo offense obviously didn't help. Things to be concerned about for me going forward are the lack of a running game and the back end of our defense.
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