How the draft looks if we trade down

That Guy · 12-31-2014, 06:52 AM

it's too early. trade downs depend entirely on who you end up with at the end of the day. if you trade down and your guy gets taken before your new pick, it can be a bad deal.

in general, getting more players in round 1-3 is better though. we're not even to the combine and pro days yet though, so the draft boards will change a lot between now and then (even though they probably shouldn't).

Chico23231 · 12-31-2014, 09:09 AM

If we have an opportunity to get an additional 1 especially from a bad team for next year draft, we should take it immediately. Hate to be that guy, you know the ones who's right, but next years draft will way more stacked that this one imo.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 12-31-2014, 09:16 AM

Draft boards will most certainly change given that we don't even know who is coming out yet.

SOUL-SKINS · 12-31-2014, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Draft boards will most certainly change given that we don't even know who is coming out yet.

And FA changes a lot of teams boards. This is all speculation obviously. Although that Eagles win was nice, losing that game would've put us at 3 where Leonard Williams would fall to us.

Evilgrin · 12-31-2014, 09:35 AM

No one is picking Collins in the top 5.

Lotus · 12-31-2014, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Evilgrin

No one is picking Collins in the top 5.

Agreed. He's great in the box but lacks the coverage skills a #5 pick needs.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-31-2014, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Evilgrin

No one is picking Collins in the top 5.

I wouldn't either but he still is a top prospect at his position

Chico23231 · 12-31-2014, 10:03 AM

If we do get an additional 2nd round pick from a trade down and we can go Oline and Dline with a first and the other second....Melvin Gordon RB from Wisconsin. Him and Alfmo in the backfield would be ballin.

hutch17 · 12-31-2014, 11:07 AM

Everyone is complaining about trading back because you don't have faith in the administration to make quality picks, but this is not the same administration and I think we will have a real GM come the draft. I don't think the last draft was bad at all. Murphy looks like a solid starter, Moses is a bust, Long who knows and then you have Breeland in the 4th who looks to be competing for the top CB in the league in a couple years. That is s pretty good haul for not having a first rounder.

jamf · 12-31-2014, 01:10 PM

I hate the trade down talk.
You only trade down out of the top 5 pick if a team wants to take a premiere player, think ricky williams.

Top 5 pick should be an impact player that starts from day one.
We need another Trent Williams or Sean Taylor quality player so it's in our best interest to stay at 5 if one of those type of players is available.

adding second round picks does nothing for us.
Top 5 pick should be a can't miss player.

Second round picks you end up with players like Jarvis Jenkins, Malcolm Kelly, Fred Davis, Devin Thomas and David Amerson if you aren't careful.

Basically, Don't do it unless you have some jackass like the Saints and Ditka calling for a player!

skinsfaninok · 12-31-2014, 03:39 PM

I don't want Winston, just doesn't strike me as a pure passer and franchise QB.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-31-2014, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I don't want Winston, just doesn't strike me as a pure passer and franchise QB.

Just curious, why don't you think he is a passer???

donofriose · 12-31-2014, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Just curious, why don't you think he is a passer???

Two problems I have with Winston... he throws a lot of picks (some weren't his fault but a lot were just like any other qb).

Other problem I have is his odd realese. Just takes a while but he can throw rockets.

He also had a superior oline and it is obvious the skins will take years to develop an oline. Rather do what Seattle did and build a team and then find your QB... Even in the late first round.

Only team that won a super bowl with a top QB in the draft (like a top 5 pick) in the past 10 years were the colts. Even with manning they didn't win until they built a team around him.

TheMalcolmConnection · 12-31-2014, 05:01 PM

Regardless of whether Winston is the next big thing or a bust, coming in now would be the worst possible timing for him to come. Shadows of RG3, tons of scandal, shitty record. Talk about setting up someone to fail. If we were to (god forbid) draft a QB early, we need someone of the strongest mental character to even have a chance.

Winston is a pretty good QB, but he still has some growing up to do and DC is not the place to do it right now.

skinsfaninok · 12-31-2014, 05:16 PM

Quake to me he just doesn't seem to have that it factor as a pocket passer. Also he's not that accurate when it comes to the "easy" throws. Also the dude is just apparently dumb off the field and I really don't want to hear about drama and shit any longer

12-31-2014, 06:52 AM	#1
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: How the draft looks if we trade down it's too early. trade downs depend entirely on who you end up with at the end of the day. if you trade down and your guy gets taken before your new pick, it can be a bad deal. in general, getting more players in round 1-3 is better though. we're not even to the combine and pro days yet though, so the draft boards will change a lot between now and then (even though they probably shouldn't).

12-31-2014, 09:09 AM	#2
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,307	Re: How the draft looks if we trade down If we have an opportunity to get an additional 1 especially from a bad team for next year draft, we should take it immediately. Hate to be that guy, you know the ones who's right, but next years draft will way more stacked that this one imo. __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

12-31-2014, 09:16 AM	#3
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: How the draft looks if we trade down Draft boards will most certainly change given that we don't even know who is coming out yet. __________________ Just win.

12-31-2014, 10:03 AM	#8
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,307	Re: How the draft looks if we trade down If we do get an additional 2nd round pick from a trade down and we can go Oline and Dline with a first and the other second....Melvin Gordon RB from Wisconsin. Him and Alfmo in the backfield would be ballin. __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

12-31-2014, 11:07 AM	#9
hutch17 Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 226	Re: How the draft looks if we trade down Everyone is complaining about trading back because you don't have faith in the administration to make quality picks, but this is not the same administration and I think we will have a real GM come the draft. I don't think the last draft was bad at all. Murphy looks like a solid starter, Moses is a bust, Long who knows and then you have Breeland in the 4th who looks to be competing for the top CB in the league in a couple years. That is s pretty good haul for not having a first rounder.

12-31-2014, 09:35 AM	#5
Evilgrin The Starter Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 1,074	Re: How the draft looks if we trade down No one is picking Collins in the top 5. __________________ Bruce Allen “We’re winning off the field,” Redskins #2 In Revenue Per Year!

12-31-2014, 01:10 PM	#10
jamf Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego Ca Posts: 5,452	Re: How the draft looks if we trade down I hate the trade down talk. You only trade down out of the top 5 pick if a team wants to take a premiere player, think ricky williams. Top 5 pick should be an impact player that starts from day one. We need another Trent Williams or Sean Taylor quality player so it's in our best interest to stay at 5 if one of those type of players is available. adding second round picks does nothing for us. Top 5 pick should be a can't miss player. Second round picks you end up with players like Jarvis Jenkins, Malcolm Kelly, Fred Davis, Devin Thomas and David Amerson if you aren't careful. Basically, Don't do it unless you have some jackass like the Saints and Ditka calling for a player!

12-31-2014, 03:39 PM	#11
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 39 Posts: 36,242	Re: How the draft looks if we trade down I don't want Winston, just doesn't strike me as a pure passer and franchise QB. __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

12-31-2014, 05:01 PM	#14
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 45 Posts: 19,272	Re: How the draft looks if we trade down Regardless of whether Winston is the next big thing or a bust, coming in now would be the worst possible timing for him to come. Shadows of RG3, tons of scandal, shitty record. Talk about setting up someone to fail. If we were to (god forbid) draft a QB early, we need someone of the strongest mental character to even have a chance. Winston is a pretty good QB, but he still has some growing up to do and DC is not the place to do it right now. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

12-31-2014, 05:16 PM	#15
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 39 Posts: 36,242	Re: How the draft looks if we trade down Quake to me he just doesn't seem to have that it factor as a pocket passer. Also he's not that accurate when it comes to the "easy" throws. Also the dude is just apparently dumb off the field and I really don't want to hear about drama and shit any longer __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

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