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Old 01-02-2015, 07:52 AM   #1
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Re: Vic Fangio and other to be interviewed for Defense.

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But hey he's got talent!
Lol. Touche.

But is Amerson required to watch film?
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Old 01-02-2015, 08:24 AM   #2
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Lol. Touche.

But is Amerson required to watch film?
Does Rambo watch film when the Buffalo coaches aren't around to make him do it?
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Old 01-01-2015, 07:58 PM   #3
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Re: Vic Fangio and other to be interviewed for Defense.

I just like to know we haven't been able to develop folks in the secondary...???

Folks this is a good example of our dysfunction. Like the arguement of talent and coaching issues on the defense...we also have problems developing a plan and scouting for corners and safeties from a personel perspective.

I'd just like to know for once what was the plan to replace Sean Taylor at free safety? This issue has been going on since 2007. Wtf!!! Why can't we solve this position?
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Re: Vic Fangio and other to be interviewed for Defense.

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I just like to know we haven't been able to develop folks in the secondary...???

Folks this is a good example of our dysfunction. Like the arguement of talent and coaching issues on the defense...we also have problems developing a plan and scouting for corners and safeties from a personel perspective.

I'd just like to know for once what was the plan to replace Sean Taylor at free safety? This issue has been going on since 2007. Wtf!!! Why can't we solve this position?
To be fair, we drafted Laron Landry in the first round to be a replacement. Obviously that did not work out, but he was was the stud we all thought could do the job...
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Re: Vic Fangio and other to be interviewed for Defense.

Will you please explain the importance of draft position and results on the field?
I think you will find our secondary was voted most popular with the league QB's who can chuck the rock over 50 yards. No doubt their guy would not be covered by our guy. Perhaps the coaches forgot to tell them "HEY! when that Cheetah looking dude blows by you like 80 mph.....don't forget to follow him!!! Sadly we all to often....forgot
BTW....did you see any Skins games this year? You may have noticed Hall was not in there or is that coaching as well?
Clark is at least a year or two to late....and slow. Did I ask you if you watched any Skins games this year? Jury is still out on Amerson...but I have high hopes four him.
Breeland looks like the real deal.. very happy about that. Thomas is....totally a wait and see guy as he has not been healthy long enough to evaluate.
I noticed you failed to point out the instances where I suggested the unit was well coached. Why is that?
Did we discuss the part about relationship of draft position and results on the field? Let me help:
RYAN LEAF?
AKILI SMITH?
JEMARCUS RUSSEL.....to name a few
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Re: Vic Fangio and other to be interviewed for Defense.

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Will you please explain the importance of draft position and results on the field?
I think you will find our secondary was voted most popular with the league QB's who can chuck the rock over 50 yards. No doubt their guy would not be covered by our guy. Perhaps the coaches forgot to tell them "HEY! when that Cheetah looking dude blows by you like 80 mph.....don't forget to follow him!!! Sadly we all to often....forgot
BTW....did you see any Skins games this year? You may have noticed Hall was not in there or is that coaching as well?
Clark is at least a year or two to late....and slow. Did I ask you if you watched any Skins games this year? Jury is still out on Amerson...but I have high hopes four him.
Breeland looks like the real deal.. very happy about that. Thomas is....totally a wait and see guy as he has not been healthy long enough to evaluate.
I noticed you failed to point out the instances where I suggested the unit was well coached. Why is that?
Did we discuss the part about relationship of draft position and results on the field? Let me help:
RYAN LEAF?
AKILI SMITH?
JEMARCUS RUSSEL.....to name a few
Look up "talent" and get back to me, ok? Are you denying the last ppl you name weren't talented? My point is so far over your head at this point, it's having to register its flight path with the FAA.
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Look up "talent" and get back to me, ok? Are you denying the last ppl you name weren't talented? My point is so far over your head at this point, it's having to register its flight path with the FAA.
Here again, you cleverly avoided addressing anything I posted....better that way I am sure for you.
BUT..alas...NO I do think as I have "already stated" Breeland and Amerson I think can play....but NO as I have "already Stated" Clark is way done unless we need him to hold open the revolving door to our pass coverage. Hall...who knows how he will return...but did you know...as I "already stated" he did not play this year....like in games....this year.

Is this information on your flight path?

I took your advice...according to Miriam Webster, Talent is "the special ability to do something well". I would certainly not describe our unit as a whole in those terms...with the exception of Am and Bree.
More importantly, I have become bored with this nonsensical exercise in avoidance.....soo
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Here again, you cleverly avoided addressing anything I posted....better that way I am sure for you.
BUT..alas...NO I do think as I have "already stated" Breeland and Amerson I think can play....but NO as I have "already Stated" Clark is way done unless we need him to hold open the revolving door to our pass coverage. Hall...who knows how he will return...but did you know...as I "already stated" he did not play this year....like in games....this year.

Is this information on your flight path?

I took your advice...according to Miriam Webster, Talent is "the special ability to do something well". I would certainly not describe our unit as a whole in those terms...with the exception of Am and Bree.
More importantly, I have become bored with this nonsensical exercise in avoidance.....soo
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You defended Morris with our secondary's (your words) "...."talent""

Amerson, Bree, Thomas, wouldn't have been drafted as high as they were without talent. Clark and Hall wouldn't have done as well as they have done without talent.

Even if you want to point out Clark and Hall are over the hill, the rest are not.

There is no defense of Morris, or any of our defensive coaches, on the basis of getting scraps or JAGs.

Maybe if you re-read the last couple pages, and my response to Lotus for example, my point might be clearer. FAA, hell. My point may have to register with NASA now. lol. HTTR
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Re: Vic Fangio and other to be interviewed for Defense.

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You defended Morris with our secondary's (your words) "...."talent""

Amerson, Bree, Thomas, wouldn't have been drafted as high as they were without talent. Clark and Hall wouldn't have done as well as they have done without talent.

Even if you want to point out Clark and Hall are over the hill, the rest are not.

There is no defense of Morris, or any of our defensive coaches, on the basis of getting scraps or JAGs.

Maybe if you re-read the last couple pages, and my response to Lotus for example, my point might be clearer. FAA, hell. My point may have to register with NASA now. lol. HTTR
No one here is arguing against the idea that Morris has coached poorly. But it is ALSO true that he has not been given the tools to work with.

To understand this, please answer the question I asked before: what capable, long-term starter help has Morris been given specifically at safety?
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Re: Vic Fangio and other to be interviewed for Defense.

We have a lot of unproven dudes and washed up guys here. Minus Breeland and Hall (who I think can still hack it).

Amerson and Thomas still have yet to impress. Are they talented? Potentially.

Clark has been anything but impressive during his 2nd stint here. WAS he talented? Yes, in his prime. Is he still talented? Doesn't seem like it anymore.

Talent can and does go away.
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Careful....you'll get the dreaded...NASA treatment
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All I know is that teams love Wade Phillips as a DC so I like that option and Ken Norton Jr.
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Id rather have Vic Mackey.
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Who has close ties to Tampa, Allen or Gruden? That's the guy to bank on.
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ST was supposed to be our FS for the 10+ years and Laron was supposed to be our SS. When Sean died it forced them to put Laron in the FS position.

Laron got injured and didn't want to get the surgery that the team wanted him to get. That burned some bridges and produced his exit. They should let Philip Thomas to continue to develop as a starting SS and draft the next FS.
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