Lenny P reporting Moss signed.

[MTK]

Not a bad deal IMO.

[Schneed10]

I think $5 million per season for a WR isn't as much as it used to be. WRs are expensive, that's just a fact of life. I don't think Moss is a bargain at this price, but I don't think we overpaid. Sounds right on the money to me.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Yeah, as soon as I got on here this morning, I was like, "I can deal with that."

Not TOO shabby.

[skinsguy]

After thinking about it, it's probably a pretty decent deal for the Redskins. At least we have Moss in our camp now - a much needed receiver working out with the team!

[Drift Reality]

Yeah, except we overpayed for his ass.

Oh well, we can't be wrong on all of our decisions.

Can we????

[firstdown]

Only time will tell if this was a good deal. He does seem to have a nack for getting into the endzone and if I'm correct Coles only score one TD last Year. With all of his receptions you would have thought he could have scored a few more.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Only time will tell if this was a good deal. He does seem to have a nack for getting into the endzone and if I'm correct Coles only score one TD last Year. With all of his receptions you would have thought he could have scored a few more.

Not only a knack for scoring but for gaining first downs as well.

I really don't think this is a bad deal at all, in fact I was expecting much worse.

It's basically a 5-year, $25M deal. Could have been much worse. If we took a WR at #9 in the draft it probably would have cost just as much if not more, at least we're getting a proven guy.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Yeah, and we know he DOES have the potential to be a strong #1 as well. In his best season, he put up TO-like numbers. If he can replicate that kind of production, I'll be more than happy with the contract.

I'll think it was a bargain.

[Drift Reality]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Yeah, and we know he DOES have the potential to be a strong #1 as well. In his best season, he put up TO-like numbers. If he can replicate that kind of production, I'll be more than happy with the contract.

I'll think it was a bargain.

I hate to argue over this point, but lets take two receivers:

Receiver #1: Career totals over four years:

151 receptions
2416 yards
19 TDs

Receiver #2: Career totals over four years:

227 receptions
2997 yards
22 TDs


Hmm....guess who is who?

Receiver #1 is Santana Moss, who just signed a huge contract; and Receiver #2 is Rod Gardner, who is being run out of town.

Now, I'm not saying I'm a Gardner fan, but I'm not a fan of overpaying players who haven't proved anything either.

This is another stupid move, in a litany of stupid moves, from the worst personnel department in the NFL - not the cheapest, but the most incompetent when it comes to handing out contracts and making trades.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Drift Reality

I hate to argue over this point, but lets take two receivers:

Receiver #1: Career totals over four years:

151 receptions
2416 yards
19 TDs

Receiver #2: Career totals over four years:

227 receptions
2997 yards
22 TDs


Hmm....guess who is who?

Receiver #1 is Santana Moss, who just signed a huge contract; and Receiver #2 is Rod Gardner, who is being run out of town.

Now, I'm not saying I'm a Gardner fan, but I'm not a fan of overpaying players who haven't proved anything either.

This is another stupid move, in a litany of stupid moves, from the worst personnel department in the NFL - not the cheapest, but the most incompetent when it comes to handing out contracts and making trades.

The stats by themself do not tell the whole story. Rod has started in 48 games and moss has started in 29. That does say Moss gets hurt more often but is more productive. He missed 13 of his games in his first season. Rods average catches and yards per game are 4.93 for 65.15 and Moss's is 5.2 for 83.3. I myself will have to wait and hold my judgement of this signing after next year.

[Drift Reality]

Originally Posted by firstdown

The stats by themself do not tell the whole story. Rod has started in 48 games and moss has started in 29. That does say Moss gets hurt more often but is more productive. He missed 13 of his games in his first season. Rods average catches and yards per game are 4.93 for 65.15 and Moss's is 5.2 for 83.3. I myself will have to wait and hold my judgement of this signing after next year.

Those are good points but I think players should get big salaries based on total accomplishments - not potential and what they did when healthy.

I mean, come on!!! 5 mill/year???? That's more than Smoot got. Are you telling me you'd rather have Moss signed than Smoot?

Look at it this way - if we had signed Smoot for that contract WE COULD HAVE DRAFTED MIKE WILLIAMS.

Who would you rather have? Fred Smoot and Mike Williams; or Santana Moss and Carlos Rogers?????

Jiyan

[TheMalcolmConnection]

What you and wolfeskins say are both very true... It can go either way. It's the same to say that Pierce SHOULD have stayed for just a little less money than he was offered just as the Redskins should have paid a little more.

Typically, I like to side with the organizations because we get into the age-old argument that pro athletes are paid too much.

[Grayacre]

That's a fair position ... it's definitely an issue that can quickly lead to a circular discussion.

[mooby]

not to mention moss is a great punt returner. and what has gardner done to help out special teams?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by mooby

not to mention moss is a great punt returner. and what has gardner done to help out special teams?

He has drop alot of first down balls to give our punting unit more time on the field and pratice.LOL