Plusses and Minuses vs. Browns

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Crowder too...speed guy in the slot with djax on the outside?

I really got on Roberts last night after the fumble but damn if he didn't look great at receiver. I think Ryan grant is gonna be a starter in the league. Our wr corp is strong.

I think we still got something's to work out in our interior oline.

Yeah the idea of Crowder is exciting - if they use him wisely they'll have Jackson deep and let Crowder loose underneath with the quick moves from the slot. Jackson will create the space, and Crowder can shake loose to take advantage of it. Pierre too. It could work well if our damn QB can deliver the ball on time.

[skinsfan69]

Is it possible that KC is a little more comfortable in the offense year two? I guess for some of you he's not capable of getting better is he? Anyhow, he was clearly the best QB last night. It's early, long way to go, but a nice start for KC.

I was hoping to see that kind of performance from Griffin. He just didn't get the attempts. Let's be honest though, any NFL QB can throw to a guy that's all by himself. I wanted to see him drop back and throw some medium range balls. I would kind of give him an incomplete. He did make a nice play running to his left. But he also had some balls that looked off.

McCoy just does nothing for me. Not sure why he is even being considered for the #2.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Is it possible that KC is a little more comfortable in the offense year two? I guess for some of you he's not capable of getting better is he? Anyhow, he was clearly the best QB last night. It's early, long way to go, but a nice start for KC.

I was hoping to see that kind of performance from Griffin. He just didn't get the attempts. Let's be honest though, any NFL QB can throw to a guy that's all by himself. I wanted to see him drop back and throw some medium range balls. I would kind of give him an incomplete. He did make a nice play running to his left. But he also had some balls that looked off.

McCoy just does nothing for me. Not sure why he is even being considered for the #2.

Well in the race for #2 it's obvious Cousins took a huge lead last night.

I like Kirk on 98% of his throws, it's the 2% that end up as INTs that are the problem. I definitely think he can get better for sure - but we just haven't seen enough preseason games yet to tell if he has.

Sample size just isn't big enough yet. But if he shows signs that he's reduced the risk of INTs, it's hard to argue against him pushing for the starting job.

Gruden said this is RGIII's job at the moment, but nobody ever said that can't change.

[SFREDSKIN]

Cousins reminds of Rypien early in his career with the INT's, I think a solid OL giving him time will cut down on the INT's.

[over the mountain]

positives:

culliver - seems physical and has a nose to be around the football. dont know if he will hold up for 16 though. i really really like his play.

depth chart WRs seemed to do well - roberts, grant and ross

negatives:

RG3 and Cousins seem to be the same as last year.

RG3 - gruden has to take out half of the tree routes and just run drags and PA, things dont require timing or anticipation. We saw this last year where Def Coord have such any easy job bc they know half the playbook wont be called.

On the RG3 scramble where he picked up 6 yards and a FD, his primary read looked to be a simple hitch and the guy was wide open but RG3 too quickly moved away from him .. even though the guy was right in front of RG3 and he was clearly open. that has to be super frustrating to a coach. the guys at halftime on CSN did a good job of breaking down that play.

RG3s footwork is just awkward.

cousins - when cousins took that sack, gruden screamed to him "OPEN YOUR EYES!" when cousins came to the sideline. it was a quick 3 step drop, trips to the right and cousins just hesitated for a second. i havent seen film breakdown but it sounded like the primary read was open. get the ball out. as an aside - i dont think gruden would scream to RG3 like that.

cousins just gets flustered and panics. in that 2 min drill he seemed frantic.

cousins throws 50/50 balls when a guy is 1 on 1 and i dont mind that. cousins is probably told if you read 1 on 1, throw the ball.

[JoeRedskin]

Reading some of the folks who broke down film, it looks to me like RGIII was exactly what we had been hearing from camp. Improved, but inconsistent - on some throws he had good reads, was decisive and the ball came out on time at the top of the drop; a definite improvement from last year. On others, he blew his reads, was a beat or two slow on his reads/throws, or had bad fundamentals.

The consensus, based on the small sample, was that it was an improvement from last year but not a giant leap forward.

Here's a good one that breaks down all his throws: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...91439550044937

[JoeRedskin]

From Keim, interesting note on the Defense:

On the touchdown pass that capped the drive, watch the eyes of the Redskins’ secondary. All on the quarterback. That’s how they’re taught to play this season as opposed to being a pattern-match team in the past (basically playing man within your zone). You still need to be aware of what’s around you, but you could see safety Duke Ihenacho staring at the quarterback, flowing with him, as receiver Travis Benjamin cut back the other way. Nobody flowed with him and once Josh McCown ran back to his right, he had a wide-open target.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

From Keim, interesting note on the Defense:

In theory that's a strategy in the secondary that can result in more turnovers, but it's dependent on the front 7 getting pressure. If there's no pressure then you can read the QB all you want, but he'll have time to look off the defenders and find a guy wide open.

Sure enough on that play Murphy does a good job of knifing in to get initial pressure on McCown but he doesn't get home, McCown escapes, buys himself all kinds of time, looks off the secondary and finds the target for a TD.

It's more aggressive, which I like. Reading the eyes means earlier breaks on the ball and more INTs. But if there's no pressure it will mean more big plays given up, that's the part you have to live with.

Good thing we signed JUNIOR GALETTE.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

In theory that's a strategy in the secondary that can result in more turnovers, but it's dependent on the front 7 getting pressure. If there's no pressure then you can read the QB all you want, but he'll have time to look off the defenders and find a guy wide open.

Sure enough on that play Murphy does a good job of knifing in to get initial pressure on McCown but he doesn't get home, McCown escapes, buys himself all kinds of time, looks off the secondary and finds the target for a TD.

It's more aggressive, which I like. Reading the eyes means earlier breaks on the ball and more INTs. But if there's no pressure it will mean more big plays given up, that's the part you have to live with.

Good thing we signed JUNIOR GALETTE.

Is this guy in your spank bank? Talk about a man crush you got going.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Is this guy in your spank bank? Talk about a man crush you got going.

Lol spank bank..

[SFREDSKIN]

I assume Silas Redd is also out for the season? Anyone know?

[30gut]

Quick thoughts-

o "1st unit" defense was underwhelming but then again its not quite the first unit without Ryan and a banged up secondary...DHall didn't look ready

o Did the S make any plays...seemed nonexistent

o Browns 1st unit moved the ball with ease

o Would have liked to see Griff get more reps

o Would have liked to see Scherff and Moses get more second team reps. Scherff at RT and Moses at LT

o Kirk looked good. Playcalling was more wide open and got more reps. Again this is puzzling for me..Griffin needs the work but doesn't get the most valuable offseason reps.

o I thought we should have drafted a TE somewhere and what do you know..Murphy's law.

o Loved watching Thompson step up and stick his nose in their in pass protection

o Matt Jones has some wiggle for a big man

[MTK]

Redd wasn't a guarantee to make the roster, still sucks for him

[SirLK26]

Minus - Gruden laughing and clapping Garcon on the shoulder after his drop.

[JoeRedskin]

Can't find the link, but read earlier today that the Garcon pass was an in-route adjustment based on the safety's reactions that both Garcon and RGIII read the same. As a result, Garcon altered his route and Griffin made the same adjustment on the fly. If Garcon and Griffin are making the same reads and adjustments, that's a good thing and would certainly explain why the pass may not have been better (Garcon should have caught it regardless - two hands on the ball = catch the damn thing).


Also this bit on our 4th round Guard.

John Keim ‏@john_keim
One thing I've noticed: Arie Kouandjio blocks with some attitude. Not sure how he'll develop overall, but has some nasty

If he can develop into a starter, he and Scherff could make our interior OL a whole lotta mean.