Cap Implications of Josh Norman

[Schneed10]

I am with KI.

It's not to say McCloughan won't whiff on a move, but the point is he will whiff on fewer than most.

As much as I love the Norman signing, and I do, we all know our fate is heavily tied to the career path of a different player... Cousins. It really is all about him this year, is he for real, is he the leader for the next 10 years, is he capable of taking us deep in the playoffs with clutch play in the biggest moments.

McCloughan will continue to build around Cousins and this Norman signing does just that. But we live and die on the arm of Captain Kirk. I wouldn't have it any other way, it feels like a great time to be a fan.

[Schneed10]

Agree. If everyone plays well enough to deserve big deals, that's a cap problem, but it's also a nice problem because it means we will have had a very good 2016 season.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Agree. If everyone plays well enough to deserve big deals, that's a cap problem, but it's also a nice problem because it means we will have had a very good 2016 season.

I read a month or so ago that the cap was expected to go up. Any idea when and how much?

The cap may not be as tight as anticipated even if several of the recently drafted players emerge as stars.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

I read a month or so ago that the cap was expected to go up. Any idea when and how much?

The cap may not be as tight as anticipated even if several of the recently drafted players emerge as stars.

Yeah definitely, it's good for a five percent increase at the very least. They never announce it this far in advance, but it goes up every year.

[Defensewins]

Nice? Losing our great players is nice?
I hate the salary Cap. Worst that ever happened to NFL.
Great teams that do everything right get broken up...because of money. Money most great teams would be willing to pay to keep their own, but are not allowed. All because the cheap owners are cheap.
I think temas should be allowed to exceed the Salary cap to keep their own players, but should be allowed to exceed it to sign Free Agents.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Nice? Losing our great players is nice?
I hate the salary Cap. Worst that ever happened to NFL.
Great teams that do everything right get broken up...because of money. Money most great teams would be willing to pay to keep their own, but are not allowed. All because the cheap owners are cheap.
I think temas should be allowed to exceed the Salary cap to keep their own players, but should be allowed to exceed it to sign Free Agents.

so you sign a FA to a $1 deal, then, because he's now "your" player, resign him to whatever you want.

you either have a cap or you don't. the parity is good for the league, cause it means everyone has a chance to improve, which gives fans of every team a reason to watch every year. it also controls costs, which is good for business.

in the 1970s there were 30 major soccer teams in the US, but because the cosmos spent more money than they actually made (the atari guy was pumping in his personal money), other teams also had to also sign big names they couldn't afford. the whole thing went belly up. hockey also had problems and had to add a cap to control expenses, since teams were losing money (including the caps, ted blogged about the whole thing).

I mean, you can hate it if you want, but it's not going away. the south park guys did a pretty good job of explaining why leagues without free agency are kind of terrible in baseketball (of all things).

[Schneed10]

Keim in agreement, they can afford to keep their own.

Signing Josh Norman won't prevent deal with Kirk Cousins - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Keim in agreement, they can afford to keep their own.

Signing Josh Norman won't prevent deal with Kirk Cousins - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN

I also think that the team is confident they'll get a deal done with Cousins, which will help with the cap situation this year.

[Bangee7]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Keim in agreement, they can afford to keep their own.

Signing Josh Norman won't prevent deal with Kirk Cousins - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN

"If Chris Culliver somehow isn't on the roster in 2017, then it saves another $8 million." That's a lot of money for a 3rd string CB...just saying!

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Bangee7

"If Chris Culliver somehow isn't on the roster in 2017, then it saves another $8 million." That's a lot of money for a 3rd string CB...just saying!

#3, not 3rd string. if we're in nickel on the first play, he's still a starter.

[MTK]

Can never have enough depth at corner. I think Cully will be here.

[NC_Skins]

You know what bothers me most about our cap situation? How come our team was so devoid of talent, yet we are so close to being capped? Where we really any better than the Jags or Raiders 2 years ago in terms of talent? Why can't we have 30+ mil in salary cap like some of those other bad teams. Let's be frank, we are a bad team. Just one playing in a bad conference. Granted that's changing but we're still a work in progress.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

You know what bothers me most about our cap situation? How come our team was so devoid of talent, yet we are so close to being capped? Where we really any better than the Jags or Raiders 2 years ago in terms of talent? Why can't we have 30+ mil in salary cap like some of those other bad teams. Let's be frank, we are a bad team. Just one playing in a bad conference. Granted that's changing but we're still a work in progress.

Completely wrong to call the Redskins a bad team. If we were bad we'd be picking in the top 10. If we were mediocre we'd be picking 11-21. And if we were good we'd be picking 22-32.

As Bill Parcells famously put it, you are what your record says you are.

We have holes, but we also have strengths. When teams line up against us we negate a lot of pass rushers with the strength of our tackles. We have a deep threat in Jackson that can win often. And Reed took a step forward towards being downright uncoverable last year.

I would use the term 'decent'. The Redskins are decent. Whether we go up or down from here depends mostly on the right arm of Kirk Cousins.

[MTK]

I'd disagree with saying we're a bad team.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by MTK

I'd disagree with saying we're a bad team.

Yeah, it's probably a harsh assessment so I take back that "bad" portion of the statement. I'd say a mediocre team right now, but definitely on the upswing. My point was why are we so close to the cap when others around our range are 20-35mil deep in cap space. I guess we overpaid for too many shitties on our team. (hatcher, lavaou, roberts, culliver, etc..)