WFT v. Packers Good Loss post-game

[punch it in]

I know we were bad but we must have been really bad if a 24-10 loss is improving. Too much I saw some good stuff today. Has Ron gotten into your heads?
This wasn’t a complete game. This was a 24-10 fuckin loss filled with head scratching errors and shotgun formations from the one yard line and missed kicks and all sorts of fuckin garbage. Fuck that. I will never allow myself to get to the point that I am celebrating a fuckin 24-10 loss. This team may have a loser mentality. I dont. Lol. They suck and Ill continue to say they suck until they win more than they lose because it is about wins and losses not playing better than the last ass kicking. It is week 7 and we are excited that they seem to be finding their way for spurts? Wow.

This team is garbage. Hot fuckin garbage.

[mooby]

Watching this team is like chasing the dragon. You never actually catch the dragon.

Sometimes you get close enough to get excited, but you never actually reach your goal.

At least Blewitt didn't blow it though.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by mooby

Watching this team is like chasing the dragon. You never actually catch the dragon.

Sometimes you get close enough to get excited, but you never actually reach your goal.

At least Blewitt didn't blow it though.

Yep

[FrenchSkin]

Ok.
You guys know how much I've been down on this team this season.
You guys know I gave them zero chance in this game.

But I actually think they played way better than expected.
Defense bringing quite a lot of pressure, backend holding up long enough for the DL to get there.
Offense actually moving the ball quite well.

You also know how I'm not one to bitch about refereeing especially in a 14 points loss.
But I think the "giving himself up" TH dive was highly questionable. He's diving head first.
And the next play I really don't get how he can be down when he regains possession with a pile of 20 guys underneath him.
That's back to back very weird calls, and at 14-21 it would have been a whole different ball game.

Anyway...

Positives

Payne
Allen
Settle (that blocked FG...)
Sweat
Seal Jones making some nice plays and key blocks

Negatives

Why the effin ass was CY sent in coverage on that 4th and 3 on the first drive ? Stupid playcall at its best...

Collins missing some tackles and allowing some YAC on key downs

For all the talk about the need to play more man coverage, I think we saw some of the downside of it on that early 3rd and long conversion on the ground by Rodgers, and that 3rd TD on Jamin Davis. I actually think that's something that is not nearly as simple as we sometimes want to make it. Like you can't go all zone or all man. Both have perks and lows, and you have to use different coverages in different situations.

McLaurin's drop on 3rd2

Humphries on the INT... freakin tackle the guy! Especially in the NFL where OPI is only 10yards... If you can't make legit play on the ball, just tackle the defender, a 10yards loss is better than a turnover. Kelce did that on Holcomb last week...


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[punch it in]

My good loss narrative is catching on!
If this keeps up we might be the best losers ever.

The difference between good teams and bad teams is good teams can overcome mistakes. When you are a bad team and you make mistakes you have no chance. Yes we can fall back on the “hey if not for a couple plays we win that game” - it is better than getting your ass kicked I suppose, but a good team isn’t buried by a couple mistakes, because it makes up for them on the next set of downs or so. We make a mistake and its “oh crap that was our chance”.

I got a hard time finding improvement in a loss.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by punch it in

My good loss narrative is catching on!
If this keeps up we might be the best losers ever.

The difference between good teams and bad teams is good teams can overcome mistakes. When you are a bad team and you make mistakes you have no chance. Yes we can fall back on the “hey if not for a couple plays we win that game” - it is better than getting your ass kicked I suppose, but a good team isn’t buried by a couple mistakes, because it makes up for them on the next set of downs or so. We make a mistake and its “oh crap that was our chance”.

I got a hard time finding improvement in a loss.

Bro pointing out improvements in gameplay isnt a “narrative”…yes a loss is a loss. But astute fans of the Warpath brand know football and we can discern dumpfire from good football. Seeing the defense improve is what we have been waiting for…seeing the growth of Davis, the improve play of Collins since his reassignment is kinda what diehards do here.

Yes you are what your record says you are, but seeing better play is welcoming

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Bro pointing out improvements in gameplay isnt a “narrative”…yes a loss is a loss. But astute fans of the Warpath brand know football and we can discern dumpfire from good football. Seeing the defense improve is what we have been waiting for…seeing the growth of Davis, the improve play of Collins since his reassignment is kinda what diehards do here.

Yes you are what your record says you are, but seeing better play is welcoming

My “narrative” was about a post made in the gameday thread which was tongue in cheek. Relax.

But if you wanna consider yourself an astute fan and a diehard and a studied WP talking head than when we play shitty football against the Giants and win on a lucky second chance fg - I dont want to hear a win is a win. If a win is a win, than a loss is a loss. Ya cant have it both ways. If you can find victory in defeat than I can find defeat in victory.

Yes I can find solace in the fact that we didn’t get beat the fuck down, but we beat ourselves when the other team doesn’t. Have seen it for years and years. I pointed out the 2010 team the other day that was 6-10 but in alot of games. It is 11 years later and we haven’t managed to win those games still. That is a major fuckin problem.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by punch it in

My “narrative” was about a post made in the gameday thread which was tongue in cheek. Relax.

But if you wanna consider yourself an astute fan and a diehard and a studied WP talking head than when we play shitty football against the Giants and win on a lucky second chance fg - I dont want to hear a win is a win. If a win is a win, than a loss is a loss. Ya cant have it both ways. If you can find victory in defeat than I can find defeat in victory.

Yes I can find solace in the fact that we didn’t get beat the fuck down, but we beat ourselves when the other team doesn’t. Have seen it for years and years. I pointed out the 2010 team the other day that was 6-10 but in alot of games. It is 11 years later and we haven’t managed to win those games still. That is a major fuckin problem.

We knew going into the year everything begins with the defense and it was a god awful shit show. So seeing that start to turn a bit around is a positive cause in order to get back to winning it starts there.

I don’t think anybody is satisfied with the team yesterday, plenty of mistakes to point out which cost us the game. But the team today was better than the team several weeks ago.

It’s really hard to win without a starting QB

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

We knew going into the year everything begins with the defense and it was a god awful shit show. So seeing that start to turn a bit around is a positive cause in order to get back to winning it starts there.

I don’t think anybody is satisfied with the team yesterday, plenty of mistakes to point out which cost us the game. But the team today was better than the team several weeks ago.

It’s really hard to win without a starting QB

Yes the defense wasn’t terrible yesterday, and maybe they turned a corner. We will see. Hope they did. Hope Fitz comes back. Hope we win alot of games going forward and maybe sneak in with a wildcard. But up until yesterday and including yesterday can suck two bags of dicks.

And if we lose to Denver this TEAM has taken zero steps forward this year.
I have an awful feeling we are going to make Bridgewater look like an MVP candidate.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

We knew going into the year everything begins with the defense and it was a god awful shit show. So seeing that start to turn a bit around is a positive cause in order to get back to winning it starts there.

I don’t think anybody is satisfied with the team yesterday, plenty of mistakes to point out which cost us the game. But the team today was better than the team several weeks ago.

It’s really hard to win without a starting QB

So it was our QB that is the reason we lost 5 games?

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by punch it in

My “narrative” was about a post made in the gameday thread which was tongue in cheek. Relax.

But if you wanna consider yourself an astute fan and a diehard and a studied WP talking head than when we play shitty football against the Giants and win on a lucky second chance fg - I dont want to hear a win is a win. If a win is a win, than a loss is a loss. Ya cant have it both ways. If you can find victory in defeat than I can find defeat in victory.

Yes I can find solace in the fact that we didn’t get beat the fuck down, but we beat ourselves when the other team doesn’t. Have seen it for years and years. I pointed out the 2010 team the other day that was 6-10 but in alot of games. It is 11 years later and we haven’t managed to win those games still. That is a major fuckin problem.

I actually agree with both bolded statements.
This loss is a loss. And the season looks like it's probably over.

But, if we wanna observe the level of play of this team, just as I was among those saying the win against the Giants was iffy and our D was playing awful, I think it's fair to say the D finally showed some clear signs of improvement in this loss at GB.

Doesn't mean it changes my feelings about where the season is most likely going, but it is what I saw and felt during the game.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

I actually agree with both bolded statements.
This loss is a loss. And the season looks like it's probably over.

But, if we wanna observe the level of play of this team, just as I was among those saying the win against the Giants was iffy and our D was playing awful, I think it's fair to say the D finally showed some clear signs of improvement in this loss at GB.

Doesn't mean it changes my feelings about where the season is most likely going, but it is what I saw and felt during the game.

That’s the thing. In that Giants “win” we thought oh shit we aren’t that good. Yesterday in that “loss” i never felt oh man we are good now.

But yes the defense was better yesterday. Maybe a fluke. Maybe not. We will see. If moving Collins helped the secondary and the lb corp than awesome. And maybe, just maybe Fitz will come back and we will actually field a pretty complete team. Im not exactly holding my breath though.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Bro pointing out improvements in gameplay isnt a “narrative”…yes a loss is a loss. But astute fans of the Warpath brand know football and we can discern dumpfire from good football. Seeing the defense improve is what we have been waiting for…seeing the growth of Davis, the improve play of Collins since his reassignment is kinda what diehards do here.

Yes you are what your record says you are, but seeing better play is welcoming

I'd actually like to tone this particular point down a little bit. Yes this week he wasn't exposed on egregious blown coverage or ugly missed tackle, but he still made some very bad plays IMO, here are 2 of them:

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

I'd actually like to tone this particular point down a little bit. Yes this week he wasn't exposed on egregious blown coverage or ugly missed tackle, but he still made some very bad plays IMO, here are 2 of them:

He awful in space. He is back on his feet and not moving toward the player in his zone. He is slow to process

[MTK]

FFS this team just finds new ways each week to beat down the fan base on and off the field.