Shannon Sharpe on Rod Gardner (Preseason 2005)

[BigSKINBauer]

i still want to see some drop it like it is hot action tommorrow though

[GoSkins!]

Gardner had a 100 yard season here in Washington. The guy has the ability to be a legitamate threat. That said, he didn't have the speed to break away from guys and he didn't win as many jump balls as he should have. He could have been used better in the skins offense, but I think that after a few crucial 3rd down drops he lost favor with coachs.

Now, put Gardner in a new situation, new team, QB with a different touch on his throws, he may very well shine. The problem is that, from what I've personally witnessed, he will want to make a play before he catchs the ball and drop the easy one... even when the catch is of vital importance.

Gardner shines in his circus catch ability because thats when he has to concentrate only on catching the ball.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by GoSkins!

Gardner had a 100 yard season

yeah plenty of washington receivers have had those lately.

[JWsleep]

Look--the O sucked last year. So the WRs stats were weak. I think the real reason Gardner is gone is becuase he didn't want to be here--and he wasn't so great that we fought to change his mind. Likewise with Coles.

Both COles and Gardner will have good stats this year (though I very much doubt Coles gets as mny balls thrown to him as he did last year--he got the ball a TON), but they didn't fit here anymore--they didn't want to be here. That attitude was reason enough to move them. THe toe and the inconsistency were secondary, though important reasons.

As for responsibility and the FO, if you haven't noticed a change since Gibbs got here, I don't think you've been looking very closely. Sure, there was Brunnell. But since that, we've been controlled in our approach. We'll see if it pays off. I'm optimistic. ANd people outside of the organization undersetimate the attitude change inside redskins park with the players. I think that is probably the biggest thing to change. Of course, the real test comes in the season, especially when we lose games, which we will. The question is, how tough are we? How united? Do we come together or split apart? That will determine if Gibbs has had an impact.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by JWsleep

Look--the O sucked last year. So the WRs stats were weak. I think the real reason Gardner is gone is becuase he didn't want to be here--and he wasn't so great that we fought to change his mind. Likewise with Coles.

Both COles and Gardner will have good stats this year (though I very much doubt Coles gets as mny balls thrown to him as he did last year--he got the ball a TON), but they didn't fit here anymore--they didn't want to be here. That attitude was reason enough to move them. THe toe and the inconsistency were secondary, though important reasons.

As for responsibility and the FO, if you haven't noticed a change since Gibbs got here, I don't think you've been looking very closely. Sure, there was Brunnell. But since that, we've been controlled in our approach. We'll see if it pays off. I'm optimistic. ANd people outside of the organization undersetimate the attitude change inside redskins park with the players. I think that is probably the biggest thing to change. Of course, the real test comes in the season, especially when we lose games, which we will. The question is, how tough are we? How united? Do we come together or split apart? That will determine if Gibbs has had an impact.

well said, nice post.

[Daseal]

While Ive been pleasantly shocked by Moss's coming out party, I still have doubts on if he can have big games week in and week out against good defenses (all his 100+ receiving games came on secondaries ranked worse than 20th) and if he can go a whole season playing like that/injury free again.

I, for one, sure hope he does and I'm wrong!

[Gmanc711]

You know what, looking back, I still wouldnt have minded Rod Gardner on this team (if he wanted to be here). He really could have filled the role of a possession reciver alot better than any of our other guys, perticuarly down the stretch. But he didnt want to be here, so I think it was a good call.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

You know what, looking back, I still wouldnt have minded Rod Gardner on this team (if he wanted to be here). He really could have filled the role of a possession reciver alot better than any of our other guys, perticuarly down the stretch. But he didnt want to be here, so I think it was a good call.

i don't think he had the kind of attitude that gibbs likes, nor does he have the skills.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

i don't think he had the kind of attitude that gibbs likes, nor does he have the skills.

he was better than TJ or farris...

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by That Guy

he was better than TJ or farris...

yea........ maybe......... but thats not saying much. tj only plays in about 1 game per year (injured the rest) farris might actually be better than rod.

[Skins_4_Lyfe]

I've never been anti Gardner; in fact we could have used his presence last season. I must say that his comments make sense and he's capable of making big plays when balls are thrown his way. He's a solid # 2 WR, maybe even #1 on some teams.

We have not seen the last of Rod Gardner.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Skins_4_Lyfe

I've never been anti Gardner; in fact we could have used his presence last season. I must say that his comments make sense and he's capable of making big plays when balls are thrown his way. He's a solid # 2 WR, maybe even #1 on some teams.

We have not seen the last of Rod Gardner.

Am I missing something? He wasn't a solid #2 the last few years here, ran wrong routes, dropped routine catches, thouroughly earned the nickname 50/50 and 'Drop it like it's hot' and we could have used him this season?? He wasn't even good enough to be a #4 in Carolina last season GOT CUT DURING THE SEASON and was only on Green Bay because every one of their WR was hurt and still didn't distinguish himself.. Are we talking about the same Rod Gardner? We're heard the last of him.

[Skins_4_Lyfe]

All I'm saying is the guy has potential. I wouldn't write him off just yet.

I think he's better than every WR on our roster, with the exception of Santana.

[Pocket$ $traight]

This thread is comical. I looked at the original post and almost hurt myself laughing.

Coles better than any receiver on the roster. I guess that was slightly off. Coles is done.

Who really thinks that Gardener is worth a damn? The guy pushes off on every ball he catches and is a premier drive killer. Good luck with Aaron Rodgers (if he can make Green Bay's roster).

Good riddance...

That being said he is better than any of our #2s...

[Skins_4_Lyfe]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

This thread is comical. I looked at the original post and almost hurt myself laughing.

Coles better than any receiver on the roster. I guess that was slightly off. Coles is done.

Who really thinks that Gardener is worth a damn? The guy pushes off on every ball he catches and is a premier drive killer. Good luck with Aaron Rodgers (if he can make Green Bay's roster).

Good riddance...

That being said he is better than any of our #2s...

I must agree...Gardner has become a master at pushing off defenders and making it look unintentional.