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View Poll Results: Did the Panthers game change your mind about the QB situation?
No, Ramsey is still the starter 61 81.33%
Yes, Brunell should be the starter 2 2.67%
Yes, Campbell should be the starter 12 16.00%
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Old 08-14-2005, 01:10 PM   #31
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Old 08-14-2005, 02:21 PM   #32
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I have to commend you on your support of Ramsey. Are you not concerned at all. Jake Delhomme didn't seem to have much of a problem moving the ball, even without Muhammad. Oh, and I don't think he had much time to "gel" with Rod Gardner.
Gardner really only had one good "gel" catch.

The touchdown came as Dehlomme was running for his life about to be sacked and threw up a prayer off his back foot. It could have just as easily been an int if Springs were back there.
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Old 08-14-2005, 02:34 PM   #33
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Re: Ramsey and Brunell Trading Places???

I'm just saying, with all the talk about needing time to get used to playing with the starters, I think Ramsey would have been a little better by now. I mean, he was working all off season. Someone needs to tell him he has more time than he thinks to throw.
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Old 08-14-2005, 02:52 PM   #34
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Gardner really only had one good "gel" catch.

The touchdown came as Dehlomme was running for his life about to be sacked and threw up a prayer off his back foot. It could have just as easily been an int if Springs were back there.


NO! It WOULD have been a pick if (healthy)Springs was back there. Not hating on Gardner over that catch, just hating on Ade. That guy is such a liability. He's got to go.
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Old 08-14-2005, 03:00 PM   #35
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I'm just saying, with all the talk about needing time to get used to playing with the starters, I think Ramsey would have been a little better by now. I mean, he was working all off season. Someone needs to tell him he has more time than he thinks to throw.

I agree totally man.........if I have to see Ramsey's feet pitter patter back in the pocket, as if he were going to piss himself, all season......I will lose it. As decent (average) as he looked at the conclusion of last season it seems as though he has taken another step back, which is not what I expected. And he didn't make me believe he had control of anything in relation to the scheme.
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Old 08-14-2005, 03:07 PM   #36
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Re: Ramsey and Brunell Trading Places???

i agree. ade's good play/bad play ratio is something like 30/70. he is a nice guy to talk to, but he can't cover for shit. im willing to give him another chance, but if he does something like that in next week's game, i wouldn't be suprised if he got cut.
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Old 08-14-2005, 03:09 PM   #37
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Re: Ramsey and Brunell Trading Places???

I'm a huge Ramsey fan but it sounds like we are making a lot of excuses for Ramsey not having time to gel with the new scheme, new receivers, etc. We'll see, it is only preseason guys.

I must say, if Brunell keeps up the crisp passing during the pre-season a QB contreversy will be unavoidvable for Gibbs & Co.
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Old 08-14-2005, 03:16 PM   #38
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Re: Ramsey and Brunell Trading Places???

I kind of hear a contradiction among those who say "don't fret, it's just preseason."

If that's the case, then Ramsey shouldn't have been nervous for the game. It's just practice. If anything, he should has proved to us that he's in control, and I didn't see that by the way he was dancing around in the pocket last night. We can't afford to have a QB take weeks to feel comfortable. I just hope Ramsey shows us better in the next few weeks of preseason. If not, I'm very worried.

For those who said that Ramsey just played with the first team starters for the first series, that's not the case at all. The only guy I saw leave after the first series was Clinton Portis. Gibbs kept the first team in there for most of the first half and I believe Brunell played with the first team at least until half time.

Also, the reason why we didn't see much of a running game was because Gibbs had only implemented seven running plays last night. I believe last night was mainly to see how the passing game has improved - and so far, it hasn't. At least the receivers did appear to be getting open downfield, but again, it remains the fact that the QBs have to get the ball to the receivers - and unfortunately with Ramsey last night, he wasn't getting the job done.

Hopefully Ramsey will have a better game against Cincy on Friday. I wonder how long Gibbs will keep him in the Bengals game?
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Old 08-14-2005, 03:19 PM   #39
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Re: Ramsey and Brunell Trading Places???

To add though - I think once we see every aspect of this year's offense, we'll see better production - it is hard to judge an offense on 1/3 of it displayed in last night's game.
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Old 08-14-2005, 03:19 PM   #40
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Re: Ramsey and Brunell Trading Places???

true people are making excuses. i feel he had enough time as being "the guy" to get comfortable....... with that said i just don't think a single preseason preformance will change my mind about him. He can do it, we all know he can do it, i think within the next 3 weeks he will trust the line and his protection. If they give him reason to trust them he will and i am sure he already knows what a great job the line did for him yesterday
the guy must have scary flashbacks everytime he sees a d-lineman. He was taking shots every play two years ago
he has to learn to trust them because in my opinon he was uncomfortable and felt he was gonna go down. TRUST TRUST TRUST
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Old 08-14-2005, 03:27 PM   #41
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Re: Ramsey and Brunell Trading Places???

I think you're right. I think Ramsey still has shell shock...LOL! Once he looks at the tape on Monday morning and he sees just how well the offensive line was protecting the QBs, he might loosen up a bit. I just want to see him take as many shots downfield during the preseason as possible. I believe we have the receivers this year who'll get open for the long bomb!
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Old 08-14-2005, 04:31 PM   #42
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Re: Ramsey and Brunell Trading Places???

Jesus Christ. One will one of you moderators start a poll. I'm very curious to document after the first preseason game how many and who of us would immediately bench ramsey. I dont care if he did go out there and literally shit himself, its only the VERY FIRST PRESEASON GAME. What the hell?? The guy did look shaky, and threw a pick, but other than that he was 8 for 12. Thats a better completion percentage than the other two QBs.

Ramsey was jumpy as hell in the NY game last year when he threw all the picks. But then when he was named the starter he looked collected and we won a few games under his leadership. We owned the Giants, who took it to us the first time we played them, and he was very efficient in all of his games last year. There's a little more pressure with him starting the season and there's alot of expectations on him this year. On top of which he's playing a bland game of football in the preseason.

Some of you guys need to relax a little bit and have some patience. If this keeps up through the regular season, I may be one of the ones here calling to bench him, but this is THE VERY FIRST PRESEASON GAME. Lets not forget that.
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Old 08-14-2005, 04:42 PM   #43
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Jesus Christ. One will one of you moderators start a poll. I'm very curious to document after the first preseason game how many and who of us would immediately bench ramsey. I dont care if he did go out there and literally shit himself, its only the VERY FIRST PRESEASON GAME. What the hell?? The guy did look shaky, and threw a pick, but other than that he was 8 for 12. Thats a better completion percentage than the other two QBs.

Ramsey was jumpy as hell in the NY game last year when he threw all the picks. But then when he was named the starter he looked collected and we won a few games under his leadership. We owned the Giants, who took it to us the first time we played them, and he was very efficient in all of his games last year. There's a little more pressure with him starting the season and there's alot of expectations on him this year. On top of which he's playing a bland game of football in the preseason.

Some of you guys need to relax a little bit and have some patience. If this keeps up through the regular season, I may be one of the ones here calling to bench him, but this is THE VERY FIRST PRESEASON GAME. Lets not forget that.
I totally agree, but hey, what else is there to talk about?
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Jesus Christ. One will one of you moderators start a poll. I'm very curious to document after the first preseason game how many and who of us would immediately bench ramsey. I dont care if he did go out there and literally shit himself, its only the VERY FIRST PRESEASON GAME. What the hell?? The guy did look shaky, and threw a pick, but other than that he was 8 for 12. Thats a better completion percentage than the other two QBs.

Ramsey was jumpy as hell in the NY game last year when he threw all the picks. But then when he was named the starter he looked collected and we won a few games under his leadership. We owned the Giants, who took it to us the first time we played them, and he was very efficient in all of his games last year. There's a little more pressure with him starting the season and there's alot of expectations on him this year. On top of which he's playing a bland game of football in the preseason.

Some of you guys need to relax a little bit and have some patience. If this keeps up through the regular season, I may be one of the ones here calling to bench him, but this is THE VERY FIRST PRESEASON GAME. Lets not forget that.
AMEN.

For those saying we're making excuses for Ramsey's play last night, that's not it at all. We're simply ANALYZING his performance.

It's a simple NFL principle; when you have a strong running game things get a lot easier for your QB. Gibbs didn't even attempt to roll out a running game last night. That's not an excuse for Ramsey, it's an explanation for why he found the going so tough last night.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO SEE AN OFFENSE LIKE THE COLTS. Let's get that through our minds right now. Moss and Patten are not here to catch bomb after bomb. They are here to keep 8 men out of the box, due to the threat their speed represents. Portis the one who is then supposed to take advantage of the 7 man fronts.

I can guarantee you that is the plan. Gibbs will still focus on running the ball and keeping the chains moving with shorter passes. He just feels that with Moss and Patten threatening deep more often, it will open up more space underneath. Sure, Moss and Patten will be depended on for big plays on occasion. But they are not here to be Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne.

Parts of Ramsey's performance bothered me, especially the underthrown interception. But he did connect on 8 of his 12 passes. If we actually tried to run the ball last night, I bet we would have put up some points. Let's not fret yet, it's too early.
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Old 08-14-2005, 06:20 PM   #45
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Re: Ramsey and Brunell Trading Places???

If I was just looking at this [1] preseason game I myself woule not be concerned.
The kid has had [4] years and that's the best he can do?
Are you kidding me?

I like the kid. I think his arm is strong but his "Head" and his "Gut Instinct" is weak.
Sorry.

I'll be pulling for Jason Cambell from this point on unless Patrick makes a 180 degree turn around.

Jason stepped in there and looked sharp.

I'll make the prediction that he will be the QB this year as we enter the Playoffs. The Playoffs?!?!?!?!?!

Yes, the Playoffs this year.

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