Ramsey and McCants

illdefined · 09-15-2005, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ladyfan06

Illdefined- I think you have a thing for me, no matter what I say or how I say it, you find a way to make it something it's not...no one ever said those of you that feel that Ramsey got a "raw deal" are not Redskin supporters as well but stop making those of us that stand behind the decision of the coach out to be the bad guys. At the end of the day, Brunnell is going to start, that's that and we have exhausted so many keystrokes bashing the coach, organization, Brunnell and anything else that pops in our heads. That is nothing is contradictory of what I would consider a true-Redskins fan.

absolutely, no one's bad here (except the cow-fans, and even then, they're pretty cool for cow-fans) that's exactly the point, we're all about the wins. we just disagree on how to get em.

no its nothing personal with you, it's just when you replied to me saying you were a Redskins supporter, it implied i wasn't. if you didn't mean to imply it, i'm sorry, others certainly have and it couldn't be the furthest thing from the truth. call it tough love, but on gameday we all bleed burgundy.

ladyfan06 · 09-15-2005, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by illdefined

absolutely, no one's bad here (except the cow-fans, and even then, they're pretty cool for cow-fans) that's exactly the point, we're all about the wins. we just disagree on how to get em.

no its nothing personal with you, it's just when you replied to me saying you were a Redskins supporter, it implied i wasn't. if you didn't mean to imply it, i'm sorry, others certainly have and it couldn't be the furthest thing from the truth. call it tough love, but on gameday we all bleed burgundy.

AGREED...unless of course on game day if I bash my hubby over the head (a die-hard Cowboys fan) he may bleed blue....LOL!!

MTK · 09-15-2005, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by illdefined

right. well Ramsey lost less then.

You're kidding me right?

You tried to make the point that Ramsey won more games and wins are what matters... then all you can come back with is well he lost less?

That's probably one of the weakest statements I've ever seen on this board.

FRPLG · 09-15-2005, 12:02 PM

I don't think I have ever looked more foward to a game than this Monday's. It gives me hope that the one track mind of this board lately will change. So tired of this argument.

ArringtonRules · 09-15-2005, 12:04 PM

No I think the point being made is that Gibbs is hoping that Brunell is the QB he was expecting. The thing that annoys me the most is that Gibbs has already made his mind about Ramsey. Ramsey seemed in command and made some key 3rd down conversions. For all Gibbs talk about core players and all, he seems to be quite good at turning player away from this organization. Smoot and Pierce are gone and now so will Ramsey

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Originally Posted by celts32

You make it sound like it's Gibbs plan to ruin the season. Gibbs has won at everything he ever did yet this season he decided he wanted to sabotage himself. He obviously thinks Brunell gives him a better chance to win.

illdefined · 09-15-2005, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

You're kidding me right?

You tried to make the point that Ramsey won more games and wins are what matters... then all you can come back with is well he lost less?

That's probably one of the weakest statements I've ever seen on this board.

like you said before, we have two sucky QBs, and that's what it comes to. everyone has claimed Brunell is the best QB to "not lose". i'm pointing out thats not the case.

i see a lot of arguments basing preseason accomplishments over regular season games under fire on the board, there are weak arguments all around.

lesser of two evils, who sucks less, unfortunately in our position, it all applies.

TheMalcolmConnection · 09-15-2005, 12:16 PM

I think we're all talking too much doom 'n' gloom. Both Ramsey AND Brunell passed very well. The only difference is Ramsey threw a pick. Not saying I would prefer one over the other but there's far too much negativity on here when you look at just how well our offense played.

Brown is really the person who caused the score to be so close. He handed them a gift of a TD. The PI against Cooley was COMPLETE bullshit. So assuming we SHOULD have scored with Cooley the score should have been something like 16-0. Who's to say if Brown didn't fumble we wouldn't have driven right down the field and scored? In the second half we basically moved the ball at will.

SmootSmack · 09-15-2005, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyfan06

Illdefined- I think you have a thing for me

How could he not? A fan of the Redskins and Family Guy! Have Mercy (shameless Full House plug)

ladyfan06 · 09-15-2005, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

How could he not? A fan of the Redskins and Family Guy! Have Mercy (shameless Full House plug)

This is true! Seems obvious he would.....LOL!

illdefined · 09-15-2005, 01:10 PM

[QUOTE=ladyfan06]

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

How could he not? A fan of the Redskins and Family Guy! Have Mercy (shameless Full House plug)[/QUOTE

This is true! Seems obvious he would.....LOL!

honestly i would, but she's married to a cow-fan of all people, is there a bigger dealbreaker??

ladyfan06 · 09-15-2005, 01:17 PM

[QUOTE=illdefined]

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Originally Posted by ladyfan06

honestly i would, but she's married to a cow-fan of all people, is there a bigger dealbreaker??

LMAO.....U GUYS ARE A RIOT!!!

I VERY MUCH UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION-ILLDEFINED....I THINK I WAS SLIPPED A "MICKEY" WHEN I SAID YES TO THAT PROPOSAL!

RedskinPete · 09-15-2005, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by illdefined

like you said before, we have two sucky QBs, and that's what it comes to. everyone has claimed Brunell is the best QB to "not lose". i'm pointing out thats not the case.

i see a lot of arguments basing preseason accomplishments over regular season games under fire on the board, there are weak arguments all around.

lesser of two evils, who sucks less, unfortunately in our position, it all applies.

What you say is SOOOOOOOO TRUE!!! Both Suck but who sucks less??? I wish Joe T could make a come back! One thing I have to say with all the great so called players on the O side is the QB spot the big hold up or is there more. Bad play calling or coaching? Are the players just over rated? What do you think the deal is?

skinnyfan · 09-15-2005, 01:36 PM

I know this thread concerns the QB's and McCants....but my brain hurts. I don't care who is taking the snaps.....I want to win.....and if Gibbs thinks this is the guy then I have to think this is best. I am concerned how we are going to beat Dallas as a team. Brunell or Ramsey can't do that on their own.....I myself think this whole QB thing is a wash.....Brunell/Ramsey although their game is different seem to produce the same thing.......so who cares who is saying "red 80" and "3" 40" and "go." I don't care anymore. I care about kicking the sh** out of Parcells and the cowgirls. I want to know how we as a team are going to do that.

TheMalcolmConnection · 09-15-2005, 02:32 PM

We are going to do it with mistake-free football.

I was rewatching my tape of the game and seriously both Brunell and Ramsey were very accurate, even Brunell from intermediate range. He took some shots downfield and all were very close.

Taking shots downfield is how we got that PI call. Moss would have been in position for that ball had he not been interfered with. We just need to establish the tempo with Portis and even let Brunell pass to our sure handed receivers. That fake reverse was MONEY last game and I'd love to see that utilized more often. THAT'S the kind of play-calling I'd expect from Gibbs given the weapons he has at WR.

Our defense I'm not worried about, we just need to do what we do. Only a fluke would have the Cowboys actually score some real points on us.

DirtBagZ · 09-15-2005, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by celts32

You make it sound like it's Gibbs plan to ruin the season. Gibbs has won at everything he ever did yet this season he decided he wanted to sabotage himself. He obviously thinks Brunell gives him a better chance to win.

Just maybe, just maybe, Gibbs does not have it anymore. Dick Vermiel's comeback almost ended prematurely, save for an unexpected find in Kurt Warner and an injury to Trent Green, if I recall correctly he was close to being fired, before that season they won the Superbowl. Now I am not advocating firing Gibbs, and he definitely gets this season, but if we are 6-10, or worse, all bets are off.

Yes this is blasphemy to some, but these illogical decisions by Gibbs the GM are getting to be too much, and some may have long term negative consequences on the team. Everyone talks about the three rings, but there was always a GM to counterbalance things on those Superbowl winning teams. I remember when the Redskins were the model franchise and always had the knack for acquiring a key player via Plan-B free agency. Now our front office is a running joke within the NFL.

09-15-2005, 12:02 PM	#34
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Ramsey and McCants I don't think I have ever looked more foward to a game than this Monday's. It gives me hope that the one track mind of this board lately will change. So tired of this argument.

09-15-2005, 12:16 PM	#37
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Ramsey and McCants I think we're all talking too much doom 'n' gloom. Both Ramsey AND Brunell passed very well. The only difference is Ramsey threw a pick. Not saying I would prefer one over the other but there's far too much negativity on here when you look at just how well our offense played. Brown is really the person who caused the score to be so close. He handed them a gift of a TD. The PI against Cooley was COMPLETE bullshit. So assuming we SHOULD have scored with Cooley the score should have been something like 16-0. Who's to say if Brown didn't fumble we wouldn't have driven right down the field and scored? In the second half we basically moved the ball at will. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted. Last edited by MTK; 09-15-2005 at 12:30 PM.

09-15-2005, 01:36 PM	#43
skinnyfan Special Teams Join Date: May 2005 Age: 47 Posts: 111	Re: Ramsey and McCants I know this thread concerns the QB's and McCants....but my brain hurts. I don't care who is taking the snaps.....I want to win.....and if Gibbs thinks this is the guy then I have to think this is best. I am concerned how we are going to beat Dallas as a team. Brunell or Ramsey can't do that on their own.....I myself think this whole QB thing is a wash.....Brunell/Ramsey although their game is different seem to produce the same thing.......so who cares who is saying "red 80" and "3" 40" and "go." I don't care anymore. I care about kicking the sh** out of Parcells and the cowgirls. I want to know how we as a team are going to do that.

09-15-2005, 02:32 PM	#44
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Ramsey and McCants We are going to do it with mistake-free football. I was rewatching my tape of the game and seriously both Brunell and Ramsey were very accurate, even Brunell from intermediate range. He took some shots downfield and all were very close. Taking shots downfield is how we got that PI call. Moss would have been in position for that ball had he not been interfered with. We just need to establish the tempo with Portis and even let Brunell pass to our sure handed receivers. That fake reverse was MONEY last game and I'd love to see that utilized more often. THAT'S the kind of play-calling I'd expect from Gibbs given the weapons he has at WR. Our defense I'm not worried about, we just need to do what we do. Only a fluke would have the Cowboys actually score some real points on us. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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