MLB playoffs.

SmootSmack · 10-13-2005, 04:28 PM

When it's that close though, the catcher should have tagged the batter as a precaution. Don't just assume he struck out.

skinsfanthru&thru · 10-13-2005, 06:46 PM

While I think the catcher should have played it safe, the onus in this situation rests on the Umpire to clearly signal one way or another that the play was still live instead of backing off the fact that he signaled peirzinki(sp?) out. He has admited that he didn't say anything like they normally do that play hadn't stopped and he definitely shouldn't have made the closed fist gesture until the player had been tagged out. He said that that is his strike out gesture, but as they just showed on PTI, earlier in the game the umpire was in a similar situation with an angel at bat but he didn't make the same closed fist motion until after the player had been tagged. It's a big f-up on the angel's catchers part but in my opinion it's a vastly bigger f-up by the umpire for giving the angel players a premature signal of the chi sox player being out.
hopefully this doesn't spoil what looked to be an awesome matchup this series.

redrock-skins · 10-13-2005, 10:56 PM

The umpiring has been horrible in the playoffs. That was an atrocious call last night. I hope this puts more scrutiny on the umps. The calls on Cano in the last series was BS too. If the Angels lose the series, they really do have a gripe. Still you have to get out there and play and try and put it behind you.

BDBohnzie · 10-14-2005, 09:56 AM

While I agree that the catcher should make the tag, if you're behind the plate, and you know you catch it, your first instinct is to roll the ball back to the mound. Pierzynski took off because he didn't hear anything...and I think the umpire made a judgment call at that point, hence the out call and then the reversal of fortune.

If anything, the home plate umpire should have pointed to the 2nd base umpire to see if he saw it or not...because he's quite obvious that he didn't see it properly.

Riggo44 · 10-14-2005, 03:28 PM

Well I'm off in 30 min. Can the clock move any slower?! I need to run past the store grab some beer and dogs. Meet up with my Budies and fly up to Anaheim Stadium for the game. The Angels need this win. If we can win tonight I will be feeling pretty good about are chances.
This Morning I was trying to get World Series tic's. All I could get were 2 for game 7. It might be a long shot. But if it happens it will be a great game.It only cost me 316 bucks for a pair of obstructed view field box.

And that's face value.

Go ANGELS!!!

Riggo44 · 10-17-2005, 03:16 PM

Well at least I get my money back for the world series tic's.

Baseball is over. It's all about the Redskins now.

skinsfanthru&thru · 10-17-2005, 06:01 PM

both divisional series r winding up being pretty pathetic. I thought the Angels would do better and I can't believe all of these injuries absolutely destroying the Cardinals.

BDBohnzie · 10-18-2005, 11:08 AM

Pujols pulled that one out last night...

Beemnseven · 10-18-2005, 05:43 PM

Good God, is it over yet?

Riggo44 · 10-18-2005, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

Pujols pulled that one out last night...

Yea that reminded me of my halos in 86'!

Huston we have a problem. The Astros are toast! :FIREdevil

BDBohnzie · 10-19-2005, 11:21 AM

I think the Stros will pull one out in the next 2...with Oswalt and Clemens slated to pitch.

Gmanc711 · 10-19-2005, 11:50 AM

GO CARDINALS!!!!!

Albert Pujlos is THE MAN, and they will win the series. Beliie Dat!

Riggo44 · 10-19-2005, 09:51 PM

Yea I hope the Cards can pull it out too. It will be tough. But it sucks to be Astros fan if they do.Trust me I know from experience! The 86' Angels still bug me.

BDBohnzie · 10-20-2005, 11:08 AM

Guess Oswalt took care of business...

Gmanc711 · 10-20-2005, 11:09 AM

Baseball season is offically over.

10-13-2005, 04:28 PM	#31
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: MLB playoffs. When it's that close though, the catcher should have tagged the batter as a precaution. Don't just assume he struck out. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-13-2005, 06:46 PM	#32
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 44 Posts: 3,813	Re: MLB playoffs. While I think the catcher should have played it safe, the onus in this situation rests on the Umpire to clearly signal one way or another that the play was still live instead of backing off the fact that he signaled peirzinki(sp?) out. He has admited that he didn't say anything like they normally do that play hadn't stopped and he definitely shouldn't have made the closed fist gesture until the player had been tagged out. He said that that is his strike out gesture, but as they just showed on PTI, earlier in the game the umpire was in a similar situation with an angel at bat but he didn't make the same closed fist motion until after the player had been tagged. It's a big f-up on the angel's catchers part but in my opinion it's a vastly bigger f-up by the umpire for giving the angel players a premature signal of the chi sox player being out. hopefully this doesn't spoil what looked to be an awesome matchup this series.

10-13-2005, 10:56 PM	#33
redrock-skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 783	Re: MLB playoffs. The umpiring has been horrible in the playoffs. That was an atrocious call last night. I hope this puts more scrutiny on the umps. The calls on Cano in the last series was BS too. If the Angels lose the series, they really do have a gripe. Still you have to get out there and play and try and put it behind you.

10-14-2005, 09:56 AM	#34
BDBohnzie Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Frederick, MD Age: 45 Posts: 4,628	Re: MLB playoffs. While I agree that the catcher should make the tag, if you're behind the plate, and you know you catch it, your first instinct is to roll the ball back to the mound. Pierzynski took off because he didn't hear anything...and I think the umpire made a judgment call at that point, hence the out call and then the reversal of fortune. If anything, the home plate umpire should have pointed to the 2nd base umpire to see if he saw it or not...because he's quite obvious that he didn't see it properly. __________________ Bad Things man, I mean bad things... “WE TOOK HIM IN THE SIXTH ROUND SO WE'RE NOT SMART EITHER.” - Shanny on what the Skins saw in Alfred Morris

10-14-2005, 03:28 PM	#35
Riggo44 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Clemente CA Age: 51 Posts: 2,390	Re: MLB playoffs. Well I'm off in 30 min. Can the clock move any slower?! I need to run past the store grab some beer and dogs. Meet up with my Budies and fly up to Anaheim Stadium for the game. The Angels need this win. If we can win tonight I will be feeling pretty good about are chances. This Morning I was trying to get World Series tic's. All I could get were 2 for game 7. It might be a long shot. But if it happens it will be a great game.It only cost me 316 bucks for a pair of obstructed view field box. And that's face value. Go ANGELS!!! __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Benjamin Franklin

10-17-2005, 03:16 PM	#36
Riggo44 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Clemente CA Age: 51 Posts: 2,390	Re: MLB playoffs. Well at least I get my money back for the world series tic's. Baseball is over. It's all about the Redskins now. __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Benjamin Franklin

10-17-2005, 06:01 PM	#37
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 44 Posts: 3,813	Re: MLB playoffs. both divisional series r winding up being pretty pathetic. I thought the Angels would do better and I can't believe all of these injuries absolutely destroying the Cardinals.

10-18-2005, 11:08 AM	#38
BDBohnzie Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Frederick, MD Age: 45 Posts: 4,628	Re: MLB playoffs. Pujols pulled that one out last night... __________________ Bad Things man, I mean bad things... “WE TOOK HIM IN THE SIXTH ROUND SO WE'RE NOT SMART EITHER.” - Shanny on what the Skins saw in Alfred Morris

10-18-2005, 05:43 PM	#39
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	Re: MLB playoffs. Good God, is it over yet?

10-19-2005, 11:21 AM	#41
BDBohnzie Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Frederick, MD Age: 45 Posts: 4,628	Re: MLB playoffs. I think the Stros will pull one out in the next 2...with Oswalt and Clemens slated to pitch. __________________ Bad Things man, I mean bad things... “WE TOOK HIM IN THE SIXTH ROUND SO WE'RE NOT SMART EITHER.” - Shanny on what the Skins saw in Alfred Morris

10-19-2005, 11:50 AM	#42
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Re: MLB playoffs. GO CARDINALS!!!!! Albert Pujlos is THE MAN, and they will win the series. Beliie Dat! __________________ #21

10-19-2005, 09:51 PM	#43
Riggo44 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Clemente CA Age: 51 Posts: 2,390	Re: MLB playoffs. Yea I hope the Cards can pull it out too. It will be tough. But it sucks to be Astros fan if they do.Trust me I know from experience! The 86' Angels still bug me. __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Benjamin Franklin

10-20-2005, 11:08 AM	#44
BDBohnzie Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Frederick, MD Age: 45 Posts: 4,628	Re: MLB playoffs. Guess Oswalt took care of business... __________________ Bad Things man, I mean bad things... “WE TOOK HIM IN THE SIXTH ROUND SO WE'RE NOT SMART EITHER.” - Shanny on what the Skins saw in Alfred Morris

10-20-2005, 11:09 AM	#45
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Re: MLB playoffs. Baseball season is offically over. __________________ #21

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