Good Outing For LaVar (merged)

[FRPLG]

Funny how I don't seem to remember many 'haters' of Lavar. Seemed like us so called 'haters' were simply SUPPORTERS of the coaches and you all were the 'haters'. The 'haters' of the coaches. Anyone wanna get in a discussion about whether we'd be 1-5 if Lavar had played more early on? It's just as speculative of a discussion as the told-ya-so statements that we'd be 5-1 or 6-0. Is it possible that maybe the time sitting out prepared him him to play well when he finally came in? Is it possible he'd have been a detriment prior to yesterday without the sitting out? It's all speculation so maybe we ought to lay off the told-ya-so stuff since no one can win an argument that has no possible outcome. We can't go back and find out now can we?

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Funny how I don't seem to remember many 'haters' of Lavar. Seemed like us so called 'haters' were simply SUPPORTERS of the coaches and you all were the 'haters'. The 'haters' of the coaches. Anyone wanna get in a discussion about whether we'd be 1-5 if Lavar had played more early on? It's just as speculative of a discussion as the told-ya-so statements that we'd be 5-1 or 6-0. Is it possible that maybe the time sitting out prepared him him to play well when he finally came in? Is it possible he'd have been a detriment prior to yesterday without the sitting out? It's all speculation so maybe we ought to lay off the told-ya-so stuff since no one can win an argument that has no possible outcome. We can't go back and find out now can we?

Well done.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Funny how I don't seem to remember many 'haters' of Lavar. Seemed like us so called 'haters' were simply SUPPORTERS of the coaches and you all were the 'haters'. The 'haters' of the coaches. Anyone wanna get in a discussion about whether we'd be 1-5 if Lavar had played more early on? It's just as speculative of a discussion as the told-ya-so statements that we'd be 5-1 or 6-0. Is it possible that maybe the time sitting out prepared him him to play well when he finally came in? Is it possible he'd have been a detriment prior to yesterday without the sitting out? It's all speculation so maybe we ought to lay off the told-ya-so stuff since no one can win an argument that has no possible outcome. We can't go back and find out now can we?

Preach on brother.

Bottom line is we're all fans of the Skins, and LaVar is undoubtedly their most popular player. I had my LaVar jersey blazin' on Friday at work and all day yesterday.

Instead of playing this silly game of 'I told you so' how about we just get back to being fans and supporting our TEAM.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Right. Which is what I was trying to say in the first place... :frusty:

[FRPLG]

Excuse me but WTF? Generalizing the arguments is somewhat silly to do but if you're going to do it then do it correctly. I think if you looked through everything that was said (good luck that'll take you all day) the main argument was that people trusted the coaches. Not that Arrington wasn't any good. Saying 90% of us said similar things is simply untrue.

And to rebutt your rebutts.
Exoffender: I'll give you this one.
Offiss: A perrenial Arrington anti-fan. You get no points for him since he has never been a big fan.
Skinsguy: How is is this hating on Lavar?
Heybigstar: Again how is pointing out a fact bashing Lavar? He simply made a statement of opinion based on fact. He wasn't questioning Lavar's ability in general. I'll be generous and give you 1/2 a point for this one.

So roughly only 37.5% of your supporting statements actually support you in my opinion.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Skinsguy: How is is this hating on Lavar?
Heybigstar: Again how is pointing out a fact bashing Lavar? He simply made a statement of opinion based on fact. He wasn't questioning Lavar's ability in general. I'll be generous and give you 1/2 a point for this one.

I included these two because they covered the general population of people that were "coach supporters" who made comments that the defense was better off without him because the coaches said so. Not because they were LaVar bashing comments. And I'll give a lot of these people credit, because many of them began changing their tone following the two losses.

As I said, all I was trying to do was tell #56fanatic not to expect any retractions and people acted like I was retarded and everyone has always been pro LaVar, which was obviously not the case.

[#56fanatic]

It is amazing to see how the people who were not wrong about saying LaVar was overrated, trade him all that crap are still not wrong. Now instead of us LaVar fans being right about him, we are wrong for going off on the coaches for the past few weeks. It seems we are fighting a no win battle with some people. I for one will admit when I am wrong about things, as I was about the Brunell thing(fortunately I was not on here when that was going on). I was, and still am, a fan of Ramsey. I was adimit about him playing last year, and was on the wagon "Brunell sucks, get rid of him" but HE has proven me wrong, along with alot of Ramsey fans. I wish I had to time to go back and find all the crap that was said about my rants regarding LaVar and repost the negative things that came back to me. Boy, how things change after one week. Granted this was one game, and against a weak team, but Holdman still played the majority of the D snaps and I haven't looked at his stats, but no where near LaVars. thats OK LaVar fans, we all know who has been supporting our #56!!

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

It is amazing to see how the people who were not wrong about saying LaVar was overrated, trade him all that crap are still not wrong. Now instead of us LaVar fans being right about him, we are wrong for going off on the coaches for the past few weeks. It seems we are fighting a no win battle with some people. I for one will admit when I am wrong about things, as I was about the Brunell thing(fortunately I was not on here when that was going on). I was, and still am, a fan of Ramsey. I was adimit about him playing last year, and was on the wagon "Brunell sucks, get rid of him" but HE has proven me wrong, along with alot of Ramsey fans. I wish I had to time to go back and find all the crap that was said about my rants regarding LaVar and repost the negative things that came back to me. Boy, how things change after one week. Granted this was one game, and against a weak team, but Holdman still played the majority of the D snaps and I haven't looked at his stats, but no where near LaVars. thats OK LaVar fans, we all know who has been supporting our #56!!

what's amazing is the people trying to cram i told you so's down the throats of people who already knew lavar was a good player and should probably be playing. The general sentiment among most regulars here was that lavar could help, but GW must have some kind of clue, to which a bunch of new posters chimed in with how much they hated GW and how awful he was or some other nonsense.

[BigSKINBauer]

Lavar will be on 980 at 4