Where is the negativity???

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

That is the big difference between you and several fans who only show up to dump on the team and nothing more. I have respect for the fans who feel that if they don't have anything good to say about the team, then they just keep their mouths shut. I also have respect for those fans who always look on the bright side of everything so as to keep our spirits up high when we go through a rough spell. Lastly, I have respect for those fans who try to keep it real by realizing that there are both positive and negative things about this team.

I don't have respect for fans who only come here when we lose, and won't even try to have an open mind in looking at the big picture. They would rather argue with you and say you know nothing about football, which does nothing for moral. I believe that is one reason why we have a forum here. To not only support this team, but to lift each other up and keep us Skins fans united. That doesn't mean we have to agree with each other on everything, but I can't honestly find the logic in wanting to supporting a team in which only brings out negativity in myself; unless of course I took some kind of weird pleasure in being negative all the time.

Words to live by!

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

That is the big difference between you and several fans who only show up to dump on the team and nothing more. I have respect for the fans who feel that if they don't have anything good to say about the team, then they just keep their mouths shut. I also have respect for those fans who always look on the bright side of everything so as to keep our spirits up high when we go through a rough spell. Lastly, I have respect for those fans who try to keep it real by realizing that there are both positive and negative things about this team.

I don't have respect for fans who only come here when we lose, and won't even try to have an open mind in looking at the big picture. They would rather argue with you and say you know nothing about football, which does nothing for moral. I believe that is one reason why we have a forum here. To not only support this team, but to lift each other up and keep us Skins fans united. That doesn't mean we have to agree with each other on everything, but I can't honestly find the logic in wanting to supporting a team in which only brings out negativity in myself; unless of course I took some kind of weird pleasure in being negative all the time.

Great post Skinsguy.

[MTK]

The GM thing isn't up to Snyder right now. If Gibbs wanted one, I find it awfully hard to believe Snyder wouldn't bring someone in. It's Gibbs' call to make, and he is comfortable with the current setup.

[firstdown]

You Want Negativity, our runner can't score TD's, Brunell's arm is going, our kicker has leg problems, our D's pass rush is no rush, the coach is in the ice age, we sign average players to block buster deals, we let go of Coles and 50/50, our owner sucks, did I forget somthing that people complain about when we lose. LOL Oh, the skies falling and the Indians won their court case and we have to change our name. I thought I'd throw in some new ones.

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by firstdown

You Want Negativity, our runner can't score TD's, Brunell's arm is going, our kicker has leg problems, our D's pass rush is no rush, the coach is in the ice age, we sign average players to block buster deals, we let go of Coles and 50/50, our owner sucks, did I forget somthing that people complain about when we lose. LOL Oh, the skies falling and the Indians won their court case and we have to change our name. I thought I'd throw in some new ones.

Don't forget about us needing a GM, and an offensive coordinator.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Redskins_P

Don't forget about us needing a GM, and an offensive coordinator.

I'll do better next time. I'm just allways amazed at how negative people can realy be and wonder how they make it in life. I know everything is not perfect in Redskins Nation but why always dwell on the negatives. I too which we were sitting at 12 and 0 like the Colts but one thing about the Skins this year the games are never boring.

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I'll do better next time. I'm just allways amazed at how negative people can realy be and wonder how they make it in life. I know everything is not perfect in Redskins Nation but why always dwell on the negatives. I too which we were sitting at 12 and 0 like the Colts but one thing about the Skins this year the games are never boring.

I totally agree with you firstdown. We're just blind optimists.

[paulskinsfan]

Originally Posted by Redskins_P

I totally agree with you firstdown. We're just blind optimists.

The only problem I have with the total optimists is that my life experience is that the squeaky wheel gets the oil. By that I mean, if Redskin fans would raise hell about Snyder's methods, maybe just maybe he would eventually have to listen. Snyder cares about public opinion, and he cares about the fans. If no one ever questions or bitches about moves made by this team, then that pretty much turns us all into Kool-Aid drinking fans who never question our team's moves. Id rather stop being a fan than to follow blindly, never questioning authority. Its easy to come on here and say "never question Joe Gibbs", but do those of you who are total optimists ever come to this site and say "yep, in hindsight, Gibbs was totally wrong" . If you are going to complain about the bitching and moaning on this board, don't you have to fess up when the bitching and moaning is legit?

[5RINGS]

I am a big supporter of the Redskins chances to make the playoffs. My Boys are fading faster than a Drew Carey punchline and the Giants can't win on the road. This division that looked to put three teams into the post season, might be lucky if it puts more than one in.

We play KC. You get Arizona. I can't cry too much as we get arizona every year and you already played KC.

Would be nice to get that extra home game like the Giants!!

[dmek25]

what more can a skins fan want out of owner?so far,in his brief time as redskins owner,mr snyder has pretty much tried everything(other than the draft)to make the redskins a winner.there isnt a redskin fan out here that can say he isnt willing to spend what it takes.we went thru that,now we are going old school by trying to keep a certain nucleus of "core players" and filling in where needed.i think his judgement in the past may have been alittle off,but i think what he wants in the end for the skins is what we all want,another super bowl trophy

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by dmek25

what more can a skins fan want out of owner?so far,in his brief time as redskins owner,mr snyder has pretty much tried everything(other than the draft)to make the redskins a winner.

Up until last year, Snyder did nothing but attempt to buy championships, and in that time, he hasn't even been able to buy a winning record. If he continues to keep his mouth shut, and let the coaches do their job, I'll be a little more accepting of him.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Up until last year, Snyder did nothing but attempt to buy championships, and in that time, he hasn't even been able to buy a winning record. If he continues to keep his mouth shut, and let the coaches do their job, I'll be a little more accepting of him.

But what you don't understand is that Snyder actually thought he was helping the team by doing so. And really, Snyder was basically acting upon the intentions of what we hear quite often around here everytime the Redskins lose or don't play up to what we think they should be playing to - that is to get rid of the coach and put one in if we're not up to championship level or let's go out and sign big names. Snyder had to go through some major AND costly growing pains to finally see that that approach was not the best for this franchise. I believe he redeemed himself a bit on hiring Joe Gibbs back as head coach. Because of this, I believe Snyder has so much respect for Joe, that he is staying back and letting Gibbs run the team. That is probably the best thing Snyder has done since becoming owner. I realize that he's still heavily involved in the player decision making - I'm sure Jack Kent Cooke probably wanted some sense of involvement as well.

I believe if and when Joe turns this team around and gets them back into being contenders, Snyder will pull back quite a bit - at least as long as Gibbs is there or whoever takes over for Gibbs maintains this steady climb back into contention.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

But what you don't understand is that Snyder actually thought he was helping the team by doing so. And really, Snyder was basically acting upon the intentions of what we hear quite often around here everytime the Redskins lose or don't play up to what we think they should be playing to - that is to get rid of the coach and put one in if we're not up to championship level or let's go out and sign big names.

Wow, looks like I touched a nerve with the Snyder comment. Is the Warpath owned by the Redskins too? I mean, I know the typical attitude of a Redskins fan is the "what have you done for me lately" mindset, but forgive me if I don't bow down to our genius owner just yet.

First of all, I don't doubt for a second that Snyder wants to win, but when his answer to the problem is to throw money at it, it makes me wonder how he was ever successful in business. He's the second generation of the Al Davis and Jerry Jones type owners, and I'm pretty sure we all have similar feelings about those guys.

Secondly, don't doubt for a second that all the crap that he does "for the fans" is for any other reason than to make more money. Wow, he didn't raise ticket prices? That would have been funny if he had, since Washington has been mediocre or worse for the last six seasons, and the only team with higher average ticket prices is the Super Bowl champion, New England Patriots. Snyder also opened up Redskins practice to the fans. Wow, that's cool. Just don't forget your $20 a head just to watch them practice.

So excuse me if I'm not the biggest Daniel Snyder fan. It'll take a little more than one "good" decision to make me forget all of the f--k ups over the last several years.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Wow, looks like I touched a nerve with the Snyder comment. Is the Warpath owned by the Redskins too? I mean, I know the typical attitude of a Redskins fan is the "what have you done for me lately" mindset, but forgive me if I don't bow down to our genius owner just yet.

First of all, I don't doubt for a second that Snyder wants to win, but when his answer to the problem is to throw money at it, it makes me wonder how he was ever successful in business. He's the second generation of the Al Davis and Jerry Jones type owners, and I'm pretty sure we all have similar feelings about those guys.

Secondly, don't doubt for a second that all the crap that he does "for the fans" is for any other reason than to make more money. Wow, he didn't raise ticket prices? That would have been funny if he had, since Washington has been mediocre or worse for the last six seasons, and the only team with higher average ticket prices is the Super Bowl champion, New England Patriots. Snyder also opened up Redskins practice to the fans. Wow, that's cool. Just don't forget your $20 a head just to watch them practice.

So excuse me if I'm not the biggest Daniel Snyder fan. It'll take a little more than one "good" decision to make me forget all of the f--k ups over the last several years.

I think you have misunderstood my post. I am in know way suggesting I am a Daniel Snyder fan. I think you have taken my post way out of context. My point about Daniel Snyder is, through his ignorance, he thought he was doing what needed to be done to get this team to be successful. Unfortunately, you can't buy success like maybe you can in the regular business world. NFL ownership is way different.

However, I believe he has realized the idiot mistakes he's made in the past and hiring someone like Gibbs who can not only coach, but who can be a great organizer and motivator is a step in the right direction for this franchise.

Ease up on the hostility please.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Wow, looks like I touched a nerve with the Snyder comment. Is the Warpath owned by the Redskins too? I mean, I know the typical attitude of a Redskins fan is the "what have you done for me lately" mindset, but forgive me if I don't bow down to our genius owner just yet.

First of all, I don't doubt for a second that Snyder wants to win, but when his answer to the problem is to throw money at it, it makes me wonder how he was ever successful in business. He's the second generation of the Al Davis and Jerry Jones type owners, and I'm pretty sure we all have similar feelings about those guys.

Secondly, don't doubt for a second that all the crap that he does "for the fans" is for any other reason than to make more money. Wow, he didn't raise ticket prices? That would have been funny if he had, since Washington has been mediocre or worse for the last six seasons, and the only team with higher average ticket prices is the Super Bowl champion, New England Patriots. Snyder also opened up Redskins practice to the fans. Wow, that's cool. Just don't forget your $20 a head just to watch them practice.

So excuse me if I'm not the biggest Daniel Snyder fan. It'll take a little more than one "good" decision to make me forget all of the f--k ups over the last several years.

Finally someone that is on my page. We have been mediocre since danny has taken over,never better. The fact this guy wants to win is undeniable, however the ways he is trying to achieve this is wrong. Constant turnover with coaches, players is just rediculous. Him, Vinny, and Pepper rogers are in no terms qualified to make player personel decisions. He wants to buy the biggest name, buy a championship. If you look at recent superbowl winners they are built from the ground up, not the wallet. Until we have football knowledgable people pulling the strings, we will be the same team year in and year out. And Joe is a great coach, he is not the builder of those teams that won superbowls. Casserly and bethard were the builders, joe was the coach only!