Broncos to trade Cutler

[Ruhskins]

Now that Denver apparently just want picks, and not necessarily another starting QB, puts other teams like the Jets, Browns, or Bucs ahead of the game I think. If McDaniels doesn't want another QB, why doesn't he get Peppers and a 2nd rounder from Carolina for Cutler? After the dismal performance by Delhomme, Carolina should want to replace him.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Now that Denver apparently just want picks, and not necessarily another starting QB, puts other teams like the Jets, Browns, or Bucs ahead of the game I think. If McDaniels doesn't want another QB, why doesn't he get Peppers and a 2nd rounder from Carolina for Cutler? After the dismal performance by Delhomme, Carolina should want to replace him.

Denver needs d-line help. Every mock I've seen has them taking a d-lineman or LB. They could trade up and get a QB if they wanted. This deal would actually make sense.

[KI Skins Fan]

Why not? I mean, he's going to pay whatever it takes to get him which will put us behind the eight ball to begin with. Then Cutler will spend his first year here learning a new system, after which Snyder will fire Zorn and bring in Shanahan.

Snyder might as well accept the probability that his team won't win the division for at least several years. He should take this time to rebuild the team around Cutler and Haynesworth, as his offensive and defensive anchors.

Then Snyder could pick up some young players and draft picks via trade. He should either initiate or listen to trade offers for any player who is now 30 years old or older. That includes Moss, Samuels, ARE and others. If he needs to throw Cooley into the trade to get Cutler, well, what the hell, the Skins won't be winning for a while anyhow.

BTW, from now on, I won't be referring to the ficticious FO or using the terms "we" or "us" when discussing possible personnel moves. There is only Dan Snyder and his immense ego to consider. Please feel free to correct me if I should slip-up and accidently use any of the above discarded terms in any of my future posts.

[RedskinPete]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Why not? I mean, he's going to pay whatever it takes to get him which will put us behind the eight ball to begin with. Then Cutler will spend his first year here learning a new system, after which Snyder will fire Zorn and bring in Shanahan.

Snyder might as well accept the probability that his team won't win the division for at least several years. He should take this time to rebuild the team around Cutler and Haynesworth, as his offensive and defensive anchors.

Then Snyder could pick up some young players and draft picks via trade. He should either initiate or listen to trade offers for any player who is now 30 years old or older. That includes Moss, Samuels, ARE and others. If he needs to throw Cooley into the trade to get Cutler, well, what the hell, the Skins won't be winning for a while anyhow.

BTW, from now on, I won't be referring to the ficticious FO or using the terms "we" or "us" when discussing possible personnel moves. There is only Dan Snyder and his immense ego to consider. Please feel free to correct me if I should slip-up and accidently use any of the above discarded terms in any of my future posts.

If the Skins go this way then the Haynesworth signing is a bad move! By the time he has any player to help him he will be over the hill.

[RedskinPete]

The one thing here is that know one wants Campbell and that is the real thing in all this. Most teams have seen what Vinny knowns that Campbell is never going to be the man! If he was other teams would be lined up.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

What did Smoot say exactly?

Smoot posted this around page 22:

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

We've been trying to get a 2nd rounder (damn you Jason Taylor!!) for a while now. I know for sure we've dangled Santana Moss out there, and I'm almost positive we dangled Rogers out there as well.

I'm not as down on Cutler as others are, so under the right circumstances, I'm not going to flip a lid if he came here. That said, I still don't think this is where he ultimately ends up (that's just my opinion though). But either way, I don't think Campbell is the future here. I don't agree with it, I think it will be a mistake to let him go. But, as much as Redskins coaches and execs may sing his praises in public, the truth is he has limited support (even from teammates) since even before he got hurt two seasons ago. His biggest supporter is now...the QB coach in Seattle.

Another member here asked him if his sources for this info were reliable and he confirmed.

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Never? I'm not even sold on him being a true franchise QB yet. Let's not pencil him into the Hall already.

As far as who could be available who knows? Did anyone see Cutler becoming available?

Good point. The fact remains, though, that young pro-bowl QBs rarely become available. Given the number of teams reported to be interested in Cutler, it seems that many of "the people who matter" (owners, GMS, and coaches) all beleive his is a perennial pro-bowl-type QB. Whether he really is that or just another Derek Anderson remains to be seen.

[MTK]

Oh, I thought you were talking about Fred Smoot.

[Dirtbag59]

Look on the brightside guy. At least with Cutler we'll have a QB that will be more suited to making our red zone offense work. It's just I don't know who was more responsible for guys like Cooley having 1td catch weather it be Zorns playcalling or Campbells inability to decide.

[Gmanc711]

I just dont understand this. Cutler, yes, is better than Jason Campbell at this point. And I disagree with a ton of people on this board, and I think Campbell has done a pretty good job since he got started here. They're going to trade all this crap for Cutler, which is just going to open more holes. I'm sorry, but Joe Montana would have stunk the second half of last year behind that offensive line, and I dont care who goes back there next year, if the line isnt better, they're going to get killed. I dont understand why we arent just using the 13 pick on a tackle, who can probaboly step in and be better than Jansen/Heyer disaster that was there last year.

Adding Landry or Cooley into the mix (although I dont think either of those will really happen), is just idiotic beyond belief. Cooley is exactly what we shoudl be looking to re-create with this team. A player who we drafted and turned into a guy who could be with and the face of the franchise for 15 years. I really wont touch too much on Landry or Cooley because I dont think that will really happen in either case....

Overall, I just dont see how were upgrading the team making a move like this. Sending two first rounders to Denver for Cutler instead of keeping the 13 pick, using it on a tackle, or trading down and trying to get mutiple picks to get a tackle and a LB or DE... I just don't get this front office. I was never a guy who disagreed with the way they ran things, because they always did something that I thought was making the team better...but this really is the end of the line for me thinking they have a clue as to what they're doing. It does not make the team better in my opinion... and to all the people who say "Hey look what happened the second half of the season to Jason Campbell and the Redskins".... I say, look what happened in Denver... they tanked worse than we did against terrible teams... at least we (save Cincinatti) lost to teams that were at least somewhat decent (Pittsburgh, Baltimore, NYG, Dallas), heck even SF was on the way up when we lost that game... I mean Denver tanked in a terrible AFC West...

If this was just Cutler for Campbell, than fine, but we're (as ususal) going to take care of someone elses problems and overpay like a Mo-Fo.

[MTK]

Ben wasn't learning another new offense on top of having a bad OL. Ben also has more weapons and a better running game and defense.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Ben wasn't learning another new offense on top of having a bad OL. Ben also has more weapons and a better running game and defense.

I think the skins running game was better but I agree on the rest. And yes the redskins have stunted Campbells growth with all the new offenses...but it is what it is. Campbell got a raw deal in Washington with all this and I feel bad for him personally, but what's important to all of us is who is the best QB for the redskins in 2009 and beyond.

[Skinny Tee]

Well, look at the upside.

Think of all the jerseys that will be sold on the team's website if we acquire Cutler!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Well, look at the upside.

Think of all the jerseys that will be sold on the team's website if we acquire Cutler!

And yet another useless jersey of a former player sitting in my closet collecting dust.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

And yet another useless jersey of a former player sitting in my closet collecting dust.

nostalgia baby

[gibbsisgod]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Well, look at the upside.

Think of all the jerseys that will be sold on the team's website if we acquire Cutler!

The latest rumor is the deal is done and they are just waiting on one of the tech guys to make up a "preorder Cutler jerseys now" banner for redskins.com.