Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Episode 99)

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

In other QB news, Vick is named starter. Not particularly surprising.

Michael Vick named Eagles' starting quarterback by Chip Kelly - Washington Times

Michael Vick of Philadelphia Eagles named starter - ESPN

Works for me!

I would rather have them start Foles, but I still am not buying the Eagles this season.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I would rather have them start Foles, but I still am not buying the Eagles this season.

I think they're going to score points, but their D is really going to struggle.

[JoeRedskin]

I just don't buy Vick in any offense that is based on quick/correct decision making by the QB. He has never demonstrated an aptitude for it and, while looking good in preseason is fine, I trust Vick to return to his time-worn habits when the defensive scheming starts. If he can't create the offense, he won't be able to run the offense.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I just don't buy Vick in any offense that is based on quick/correct decision making by the QB. He has never demonstrated an aptitude for it and, while looking good in preseason is fine, I trust Vick to return to his time-worn habits when the defensive scheming starts. If he can't create the offense, he won't be able to run the offense.

I think they will do stuff similar to what we did, run a lot of read option, mis direction stuff, run play action off of it to give Vick half the field type reads. I think he's in an offense that's perfect for him. Plus they get back Jason Peters and that will help a ton. They're going to score points.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I just don't buy Vick in any offense that is based on quick/correct decision making by the QB. He has never demonstrated an aptitude for it and, while looking good in preseason is fine, I trust Vick to return to his time-worn habits when the defensive scheming starts. If he can't create the offense, he won't be able to run the offense.

I'm with you here. I think this is a pretty serious indictment of where Foles is in his development, because there's no upside whatsoever to the Eagles going with Vick at QB.

The speed of Kelly's offense should cover up a lot of Vick's past mistakes, but it would have done the same for any QB, and you'd have to think that if Foles could have gotten the most out of their stars (McCoy, Jackson, Celek), he'd be in there.

Philly's defense is an absolute disaster, and it's struggles are about to be compounded by how quickly their offense gets up and down the field.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'm with you here. I think this is a pretty serious indictment of where Foles is in his development, because there's no upside whatsoever to the Eagles going with Vick at QB.

The speed of Kelly's offense should cover up a lot of Vick's past mistakes, but it would have done the same for any QB, and you'd have to think that if Foles could have gotten the most out of their stars (McCoy, Jackson, Celek), he'd be in there.

Philly's defense is an absolute disaster, and it's struggles are about to be compounded by how quickly their offense gets up and down the field.

I think its less about Foles and his development and more that Kelly's offense is a bad fit for Foles. Kelly wants to do some read option imo, and Foles is not suited for that at all.

[Chico23231]

Chip Kelly about to realize that the NFL defenses are much better than the consistently weak ass Pac 10. Unfortunately he cant out recruit Skins, Dallas, and the Giants personel.

[MTK]

It's not like the NFL has never seen a no huddle offense before.

[Skinzman]

The thing I worry about Philly is that Reid never understood what a good back can mean to an offense. Kelly will use Shady to take pressure off of Vick. Vick and Shady in a read option is a bit scary as long as Vick gets the quick reads down. If Vick figures out how to pass like the one season he did well at it, that could be a real good offense.

[Evilgrin]

Vick always starts out good, (just like the Cowboys). Then things start to head south after the first month. I think we are in for a really tough first game though. If they have a bad set of quick downs, that defense could be on the field alot. Possibly the worst defense in the NFL.

Also, they are counting on 3 guys over 30 recovering from serious injuries on the offensive line.

[SirLK26]

This sucks for Denver.

Von Miller suspended six games for policy violation - NFL.com

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

This sucks for Denver.

Von Miller suspended six games for policy violation - NFL.com

Its ok, he'll have his first breakout game of the season against Tyler Polumbus.

[scowan]

So with every team gearing up for the 3rd preseason game, which is suppose to look more like a regular season dress rehersal, the Bills @ Redskins starting units will most likely feature Kevin Kobb vs Rex Grossman........ I think I'll mow my yard Saturday afternoon.

At this point I am so ready for the Regular Season. The skins and everyone else, just seems to be getting guys hurt.

[donofriose]

Bears rookie linebacker Bostic fined $21,000 for hit - chicagotribune.com

This is a joke. 21,000 for a player who wrapped up, and tried to lead with his shoulder. The other hits they fine for I'm OK with, but to fine a player who wrapped up and made a tackle on a receiver who obviously was not "defenseless" and turned up field is a joke.

[scowan]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Bears rookie linebacker Bostic fined $21,000 for hit - chicagotribune.com

This is a joke. 21,000 for a player who wrapped up, and tried to lead with his shoulder. The other hits they fine for I'm OK with, but to fine a player who wrapped up and made a tackle on a receiver who obviously was not "defenseless" and turned up field is a joke.

If I were a smallish corner in the NFL, I would not know how to tackle. I mean if you are a big strong LB, you can go in heads up wrap and overpower a guy and drop him, but a small Corner has to go low and take out a guys legs to bring him down. If you go high, you will get over powered and/or get a helmet to helmet hit, which equals a fine. Not to mention the whole thing happens so fast its like trying to plan on which part of a car you want to hit in a car wreck going 60 miles per hour. I mean seriously, if Arian Peterson or Steven Jackson was coming at you, how would you attempt to tackle him?