The "Inside Word" on the QB Search

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

I never said "don't trade up to get RG III". My fear is that the price of the trade-up will be more than a team with as many needs as the Redskins can afford.

Someone here said to get him "at any cost". I got off the train LONG before we got to "any cost". Let's think about what "any cost" means:

First round picks in 2012, 13, 14 - - plus - -
Second round picks in 2012, 13, 14 - - plus - -
Orakpo, Kerrigan AND Helu.

Or maybe the Skins should bid even higher if necessary...?

Robert Griffin III will likely be a very good QB in the NFL and possibly a multi-time Pro Bowl player. But it is the cost of trading up that has to be weighed here because the Washington Redskins are not merely one player away from "greatness".

I think it is clear that there is a price worth paying and a price that is just too steep. Like you, I don't advocate getting him at any cost. But I also think that the Skins need to be willing to stretch the boundaries of what seems to be reasonable if it will get them a Franchise QB. In today's NFL, which is a pass first league, I just don't think you can expect to win a title without one.

We don't need to outbid Mike Ditka. We just need to outbid other reasonable, competent GM's.

[SBXVII]

KI,

I'll be nice... Your comment is absurd, and so you know I'm refering to your comment about other posters not RGIII. I don't doubt he's not the real deal. I don't doubt Luck is the real deal either, but I think those of us whom you are refering to are using reason and common sense in knowing Luck will be gone and quite possibly RGIII also. It will be a huge suprise if he's still there at #6 and if he is then we take him.

I'm not one who would like to see the team throw the majority of their picks at just one player when the team has more needs then just one position. I hope he's there but if it's too many picks I'll pass, if he's not too costly then fine let's get him. Otherwise I'm sure we can find someone like a Tom Brady.

[diehardskin2982]

We mortgage 2 years of draft picks for RGIII, so what! It's solidarity at the position for the next 5-10 years. I'm okay with that.

[cdskins26]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

We mortgage 2 years of draft picks for RGIII, so what! It's solidarity at the position for the next 5-10 years. I'm okay with that.

If we mortgage the draft and use FA INTELLIGENTLY. No monster contracts, but bring in a #1 receiver at as cheap as possible, unless were convinced we have our guy, in which case throw some money at him. Bring in a secondary receiver like braylon edwards to compete in camp (a lot better than stalworth or stokley as competition) and then we can spend what is left in the draft on our offensive line. Next years draft can center around cornerbacks and replacing fletch.

[NYCskinfan82]

If we are able to pick a few key positions in FA like OG, OT, CB, FS, & ILB then trade away our 1st & 2nd this year & next years 1st & 3rd if that's what it takes.

[VTSkins1961]

I would not trade more than that. In my humble opinion anything more than that is too much for any 1 player. I agree RG3 will most likely be a "franchise qb". What I'm saying is is sign a decent qb free agent then we won't as pressured to sell the farm for 1 player.

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by VTSkins1961

I would not trade more than that. In my humble opinion anything more than that is too much for any 1 player. I agree RG3 will most likely be a "franchise qb". What I'm saying is is sign a decent qb free agent then we won't as pressured to sell the farm for 1 player.

I agree, I've stated this in another post, we have to have a contingency plan we have to sign a FA QB otherwise we will be over paying to trade up. I would like to sit a #6 and see if RGIII falls to us. Nobody expected SackPo to fall to us but he did.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by VTSkins1961

I would not trade more than that. In my humble opinion anything more than that is too much for any 1 player. I agree RG3 will most likely be a "franchise qb". What I'm saying is is sign a decent qb free agent then we won't as pressured to sell the farm for 1 player.

Everyone has their price. Some lower then others. I guess I wouldn't have a problem with....

1st round picks of: 2012, 2013
3rd round pick of: 2012
4th round pick of: 2013

This would spread out our draft picks and still allow us to get decent players both this year and next year.

The problem is there are people here who would trade not only their house away but also the furniture inside because they heard the 2012 Corvette will be the best car.

If we as fans and I'll somewhat speak for the coaching staff close our minds to all options then we not only will in the end be dissapointed but will remain a mediocre team. All we as fans want and need is a QB who can get the job done not only for now but for the forseeable future, and to get that we don't need to toss in two years worth of draft picks in hopes one player "might" be worth it. Remember last year at this time Locker was the man. Locker was the #1. Locker was going to take his team to whatever promised land. Did he even get to play this year? I can tell you who did better.... obviously Tebow, and a QB who was not supposed to be drafted until the 3rd or 4rth round (Andy Dalton). Dalton being a QB I said we should take and got laughed at and told he wouldn't amount to anything but camp fodder.

Personally I think we can get a FA like Flynn and also draft a QB to challenge for the starting position. Bring in a couple of decent weapons at WR and this team will do a lot better especially since the running game started coming together at the end of the year.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

The problem is there are people here who would trade not only their house away but also the furniture inside because they heard the 2012 Corvette will be the best car.

I like to refer to it as not giving away the farm but at the same time being willing to part with a couple of piece of heavy machinery (IE early draft picks). RGIII is a blue chip prospect. An elite QB. With the exception of the 2004 draft with Eli Manning and this year with Andrew Luck I can't really envision another draft over the last 10 years where RGIII wouldn't have been the first QB off the board.

Maybe 2007 where JaMarcus Russell was wowing teams with his workouts but RGIII has just as many physical attributes as Russell if not more. Not to mention he's at least a borderline genius, though I'd venture that given the fact that he graduated high school and college early that he is in fact a certifiable genius with an IQ of at least a 140. Who knows, maybe he could beat Fitzpatrick in an academic decathlon.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I like to refer to it as not giving away the farm but at the same time being willing to part with a couple of piece of heavy machinery (IE early draft picks). RGIII is a blue chip prospect. An elite QB. With the exception of the 2004 draft with Eli Manning and this year with Andrew Luck I can't really envision another draft over the last 10 years where RGIII wouldn't have been the first QB off the board.

Maybe 2007 where JaMarcus Russell was wowing teams with his workouts but RGIII has just as many physical attributes as Russell if not more. Not to mention he's at least a borderline genius, though I'd venture that given the fact that he graduated high school and college early that he is in fact a certifiable genius with an IQ of at least a 140. Who knows, maybe he could beat Fitzpatrick in an academic decathlon.

Funny. Ok how about next year? we really wouldn't know how RG3 will do or would do especially since Barkley will be entering the draft then and I'm almost positive he was ranked #2 behind Luck this year. I also remember a ton of people here saying we had to do whatever we needed to do to get Barkley.

Also I'm just guessing but I bet the Bengals and Bronco's are totally upset they were not able to pick up a top 5 QB who could be their franchise QB.

[Dirtbag59]

As I've basically been saying before. RGIII is Michael Vick, if Michael Vick had an IQ in the 140 range, was accurate, and wasn't interested in partying all the time. Sure the price to get him will be steep but considering the payoff of 10 plus possible years of stability at the games most important position, not to mention an actual game changer that will strike fear into the hearts of defenses everywhere, well it's hard to be frugal.

Honestly, guys like Landry, Orakpo, Kerrigan, and Williams are nice, but they're supporting pieces. Without a QB we're wasting their prime years.

I think that RGIII can have the type of impact that Ovechkin had on the Capitals.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

As I've basically been saying before. RGIII is Michael Vick, if Michael Vick had an IQ in the 140 range, was accurate, and wasn't interested in partying all the time. Sure the price to get him will be steep but considering the payoff of 10 plus possible years of stability at the games most important position, not to mention an actual game changer that will strike fear into the hearts of defenses everywhere, well it's hard to be frugal.

Honestly, guys like Landry, Orakpo, Kerrigan, and Williams are nice, but they're supporting pieces. Without a QB we're wasting their prime years.

I think that RGIII can have the type of impact that Ovechkin had on the Capitals.

What's that? Dominate the regular season only to lose in the playoffs every year?!? lol

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

What's that? Dominate the regular season only to lose in the playoffs every year?!? lol

Better than getting dominated every regular season and watching the playoffs at home.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

What's that? Dominate the regular season only to lose in the playoffs every year?!? lol

Hey better then failing in the regular season year after year after year. And as the Colts demonstrated during their time with Manning. As long as you continue to make the playoffs you have a chance to go all the way.

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Better than getting dominated every regular season and watching the playoffs at home.

Nice

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Hey better then failing in the regular season year after year after year. And as the Colts demonstrated during their time with Manning. As long as you continue to make the playoffs you have a chance to go all the way.




Nice

I know I'd rather be there too. Just messin'... but it does get frustrating to be in the playoffs and go nowhere each year.