Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

I think it is what it is at this point. Cooley coming out and saying it is slightly different because he brings some validity to it.

Give the kid a healthy offseason to study and work on his mechanics and we see a good III next year. Last year all we ever heard from everyone (Cooley included) was Robert was a leader, a great locker room guy, humble, and the best QB they have had in a while.

Griffin will use this whole season to motivate him as well as his own personal drive to have an enormous impact on our 2014 season.

I hope cousins does well, it bodes for good value and a possible one or two extra picks in April for the new regime.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

I think it is what it is at this point. Cooley coming out and saying it is slightly different because he brings some validity to it.

Give the kid a healthy offseason to study and work on his mechanics and we see a good III next year. Last year all we ever heard from everyone (Cooley included) was Robert was a leader, a great locker room guy, humble, and the best QB they have had in a while.

Griffin will use this whole season to motivate him as well as his own personal drive to have an enormous impact on our 2014 season.

I hope cousins does well, it bodes for good value and a possible one or two extra picks in April for the new regime.

Nobody is going to give you two picks for a backup, and if they did they would be a mid rounder and a low rounder that probably wouldn't make the squad. You base Cousin's worth on 3 games worth of work from last season, emphasis on last season. Matt Flynn and others have wrecked the market for second string QBs. If a team needs a starter or backup, they can just draft one. Also, what if Cousins bombs in his 3 game stint? His trade value would evaporate immediately. Too many guys in here are banking on something that is far from a sure thing. Also, if Cousins does do very well, are you going to get rid of him and keep Grossman? What if RG III truly is a bust? Then you have no viable QB and another good 3-5 seasons of shitball to watch or bitch about!

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Nobody is going to give you two picks for a backup, and if they did they would be a mid rounder and a low rounder that probably wouldn't make the squad. You base Cousin's worth on 3 games worth of work from last season, emphasis on last season. Matt Flynn and others have wrecked the market for second string QBs. If a team needs a starter or backup, they can just draft one. Also, what if Cousins bombs in his 3 game stint? His trade value would evaporate immediately. Too many guys in here are banking on something that is far from a sure thing. Also, if Cousins does do very well, are you going to get rid of him and keep Grossman? What if RG III truly is a bust? Then you have no viable QB and another good 3-5 seasons of shitball to watch or bitch about!

I was never banking on anything. I know in the last few years Allen has gotten decent value for guys.

All I was saying in a nut shell, is great if he does well and oh well there is a fourth round backup On the team who plays like a fourth round backup. Don't generalize me into a category who blindly sees cousins as having some high value.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

LOL. I know it seems very unrealistic at this point, but is anyone other than me actually wishing this trainwreck wasn't so bad for the Redskins? (regardless of whether shanny's fired for 3 out of 4 miserable seasons?)

No were all very happy with the current state of affairs.
I still believe cap space, new staff, another draft, and a healthy RG-3 can go places. As far as i can see we still will be playin in the god forsaken nfc east next year. Just gotta be in it to win it.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by punch it in

No were all very happy with the current state of affairs.
I still believe cap space, new staff, another draft, and a healthy RG-3 can go places. As far as i can see we still will be playin in the god forsaken nfc east next year. Just gotta be in it to win it.

The roster is very weak, especially in terms of depth. One more draft isn't going to cover up the deficiencies on the team, even with cap space for FA signings.

[Evilgrin]

They probably need to move 75% of their starters to backup positions, 30 plus new players minimum. Can't do that giving it all to a couple free agency show ponys.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Evilgrin

They probably need to move 75% of their starters to backup positions, 30 plus new players minimum. Can't do that giving it all to a couple free agency show ponys.

Every team is going to have huge holes and it would be impossible to obtain 30 plus players in one off season. We were a division champion last year and with mediocrity (parity) in the NFL we can bounce back quickly. A few players at key positions can make everyone play better, but I agree in that we do need to address more than a few positions.

[Evilgrin]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Every team is going to have huge holes and it would be impossible to obtain 30 plus players in one off season. We were a division champion last year and with mediocrity (parity) in the NFL we can bounce back quickly. A few players at key positions can make everyone play better, but I agree in that we do need to address more than a few positions.

Not every team has the holes we have. I think we have more personnel problems then alot of other teams.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

The roster is very weak, especially in terms of depth. One more draft isn't going to cover up the deficiencies on the team, even with cap space for FA signings.

LOL, this is what we said almost 5 years ago when shannashit took over. This guy just needs to go the fuck away from here. Again with the "couple more years" shit. He even had the rookie of the fuckin century last year, and managed to fuck that up like a meth addict trying to stay on topic.

So sick of Mike fuckin Shanahan. Just an overrated Garbage coach. Can we now safely say that he TRULY hasn't done a squirts shit without John Fucking Elway? Is it safe to say that around here now without getting fucking stoned in a circle?

[GusFrerotte]

Sorry guys at being Mr. pessimist as usual, but too many variables here to say if we would get good value for a Cousins trade, and if we should even consider trading Cousins at all. Some of you are banking at RG III getting healthy and all of a sudden getting a great work ethic and suddenly being coachable. Sorry folks, but those attributes are usually present when the players come into the league. Many have said how Shanny might have "Ramseyed" RG III, but Snyder is the one who has wined and dined the kid, and obviously has sided with Robert in the feud with Shanny. Nobody with a brain is going to want to be the HC of the Skins, unless Snyder offers him the moon.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Sorry guys at being Mr. pessimist as usual, but too many variables here to say if we would get good value for a Cousins trade, and if we should even consider trading Cousins at all. Some of you are banking at RG III getting healthy and all of a sudden getting a great work ethic and suddenly being coachable. Sorry folks, but those attributes are usually present when the players come into the league. Many have said how Shanny might have "Ramseyed" RG III, but Snyder is the one who has wined and dined the kid, and obviously has sided with Robert in the feud with Shanny. Nobody with a brain is going to want to be the HC of the Skins, unless Snyder offers him the moon.

I doubt that anything you posted above is remotely credible.

1. Cousins has value. Right now, some GM's think he's worth a 2nd Round pick.

2. What person of any credibility has ever said that RGIII has a poor work ethic and isn't coachable?

3. What evidence is there to support a feud between RGIII and Shanny and that Snyder has sided with RGIII in this supposed feud?

4. Plenty of good coaches will want the Redskins job. I think that Snyder has learned to keep his distance for the most part and that the new HC will have sufficient latitude to do his job. He will also have one big $20,000,000 reason to take the job.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Sorry guys at being Mr. pessimist as usual, but too many variables here to say if we would get good value for a Cousins trade, and if we should even consider trading Cousins at all. Some of you are banking at RG III getting healthy and all of a sudden getting a great work ethic and suddenly being coachable. Sorry folks, but those attributes are usually present when the players come into the league. Many have said how Shanny might have "Ramseyed" RG III, but Snyder is the one who has wined and dined the kid, and obviously has sided with Robert in the feud with Shanny. Nobody with a brain is going to want to be the HC of the Skins, unless Snyder offers him the moon.

Wow....
That is a great deal of information reconciled from....nothing? Conclusions drawn from hyperbole, rhetoric and......bombast.
Very informative....

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Sorry guys at being Mr. pessimist as usual, but too many variables here to say if we would get good value for a Cousins trade, and if we should even consider trading Cousins at all. Some of you are banking at RG III getting healthy and all of a sudden getting a great work ethic and suddenly being coachable. Sorry folks, but those attributes are usually present when the players come into the league. Many have said how Shanny might have "Ramseyed" RG III, but Snyder is the one who has wined and dined the kid, and obviously has sided with Robert in the feud with Shanny. Nobody with a brain is going to want to be the HC of the Skins, unless Snyder offers him the moon.

Amazing

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Sorry guys at being Mr. pessimist as usual, but too many variables here to say if we would get good value for a Cousins trade, and if we should even consider trading Cousins at all. Some of you are banking at RG III getting healthy and all of a sudden getting a great work ethic and suddenly being coachable. Sorry folks, but those attributes are usually present when the players come into the league. Many have said how Shanny might have "Ramseyed" RG III, but Snyder is the one who has wined and dined the kid, and obviously has sided with Robert in the feud with Shanny. Nobody with a brain is going to want to be the HC of the Skins, unless Snyder offers him the moon.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Sorry guys at being Mr. pessimist as usual, but too many variables here to say if we would get good value for a Cousins trade, and if we should even consider trading Cousins at all. Some of you are banking at RG III getting healthy and all of a sudden getting a great work ethic and suddenly being coachable. Sorry folks, but those attributes are usually present when the players come into the league. Many have said how Shanny might have "Ramseyed" RG III, but Snyder is the one who has wined and dined the kid, and obviously has sided with Robert in the feud with Shanny. Nobody with a brain is going to want to be the HC of the Skins, unless Snyder offers him the moon.

Were you being wined and dined with RG3? Otherwise I don't think you have any proof that that happened.