Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by natesurfn

I wouldn't say inspite or the Shanahans because I think they are drawing up plays that work well with RG3. However, RG3 could probably thrive in almost any offense because of his intelligence and versatility.

I will say that RG3 has certainly exceeded my expectations. I said this before the draft, I thought that Luck was far and away the best QB in the draft (I still think he's the best) and the gap between Tannehill and RG3 was not very large. I've been impressed with RT but RG3 is something truly special

[natesurfn]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I will say that RG3 has certainly exceeded my expectations. I said this before the draft, I thought that Luck was far and away the best QB in the draft (I still think he's the best) and the gap between Tannehill and RG3 was not very large. I've been impressed with RT but RG3 is something truly special

I still think that RG3 has the higher ceiling, that being said he may need more players around him than Luck. I'm glad that we have Griff over Luck though because IMO he is just as smart but more accurate and athletic. Luck = the new Peyton though, but historically the Skins have never been a strict Peyton type team so RG3 will fit just fine.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Way I read it, people (well at least one person) are saying Rex/Beck were part of a poorly run Mike/Kyle offense yet RG3 is somehow performing in spite of Mike/Kyle offense

Well we beat the Giants twice with Rex/Beck so I'd say that was some pretty good coaching there. I felt the same about Bradford SS. He's a good QB I think but he hasn't come close to what I expected.

[natesurfn]

BTW I'm such an eternal optimist that I thought the Rex/Beck project was going to work. I really have no reasons to back it up but coming out of preseason I was thinking its gonna be hard deciding who to start because they're both just so good.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Way I read it, people (well at least one person) are saying Rex/Beck were part of a poorly run Mike/Kyle offense yet RG3 is somehow performing in spite of Mike/Kyle offense

End of the day we are still losing that is my problem. I have a tough time believing Rak and Carriker change that. If we lose to Carolina this weekend im officially on the MS must go train. At some point x's and o's and gameplanning on both sides of the ball have to be held responsible.


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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I will say that RG3 has certainly exceeded my expectations. I said this before the draft, I thought that Luck was far and away the best QB in the draft (I still think he's the best) and the gap between Tannehill and RG3 was not very large. I've been impressed with RT but RG3 is something truly special

Where do you rank Sanchez and Tebow?


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[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Where do you rank Sanchez and Tebow?


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I have nothing against Tebow the person, but not the biggest fan of Tebow the player.

Sanchez drives me crazy, I really thought he'd be a solid QB and I think he can be but he's so inconsistent. I root for him though

Think I was dead wrong about Bradford. Thought he'd be the best QB in the league by now

[los panda]

sanchez is like jason campbell

[natesurfn]

Originally Posted by los panda

sanchez is like jason campbell

Why do we hate Campbell so much?? Sure he did nothing for us, but short of the top 5 elite qb's not one would have back then. Maybe I just like Campbell as a person too much...you could be right.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by natesurfn

Why do we hate Campbell so much?? Sure he did nothing for us, but short of the top 5 elite qb's not one would have back then. Maybe I just like Campbell as a person too much...you could be right.

It's not soo much that we hate Jason Campbell, it's just that it should have been clear from nearly day 1 that he was not starter material, and was not the long term answer for this team. It took getting him injured for the team to make the playoffs in 2007. He was a great person, so they say, that is why he left his fiancee standing at the alter, what a great guy.

If JC was so good and the skins were so wrong about him, you'd think a new team would be rushing out to get him, right? Wrong. Replaced in Oakland by a fat, out of shape, then ex-NFL QB named Carson somebody who was sitting on his couch never figuring the phone might ring. After that he is accepting a backup job on a 1 year veteran minimum salary for the bears. He probably won't even be in the NFL next season. What a champ. But he was super smart and he fought his guts out here, right?

[los panda]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

It's not soo much that we hate Jason Campbell, it's just that it should have been clear from nearly day 1 that he was not starter material, and was not the long term answer for this team. It took getting him injured for the team to make the playoffs in 2007. He was a great person, so they say, that is why he left his fiancee standing at the alter, what a great guy.

If JC was so good and the skins were so wrong about him, you'd think a new team would be rushing out to get him, right? Wrong. Replaced in Oakland by a fat, out of shape, then ex-NFL QB named Carson somebody who was sitting on his couch never figuring the phone might ring. After that he is accepting a backup job on a 1 year veteran minimum salary for the bears. He probably won't even be in the NFL next season. What a champ. But he was super smart and he fought his guts out here, right?

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[natesurfn]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

It's not soo much that we hate Jason Campbell, it's just that it should have been clear from nearly day 1 that he was not starter material, and was not the long term answer for this team. It took getting him injured for the team to make the playoffs in 2007. He was a great person, so they say, that is why he left his fiancee standing at the alter, what a great guy.

If JC was so good and the skins were so wrong about him, you'd think a new team would be rushing out to get him, right? Wrong. Replaced in Oakland by a fat, out of shape, then ex-NFL QB named Carson somebody who was sitting on his couch never figuring the phone might ring. After that he is accepting a backup job on a 1 year veteran minimum salary for the bears. He probably won't even be in the NFL next season. What a champ. But he was super smart and he fought his guts out here, right?

Didn't know about the whole wedding thing. JC was having a solid year in Oakland before he broke his clavicle, then with him out they picked up Palmer because coach had worked with him before. My excuses for JC have run thin considering how many rookies are suceeding in their first year with new OC's so I guess I'll just say I'm glad we now have the qb that we do.

[SmootSmack]

I said Coors Light specifically because that's BA's beer of choice

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I said Coors Light specifically because that's BA's beer of choice

I understood you. BA seems like a good dude, and it was encouraging to hear how he's changed the culture at Redskins Park for the better. I suspect we haven't seen his hand in personnel decisions much, which is disappointing.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I understood you. BA seems like a good dude, and it was encouraging to hear how he's changed the culture at Redskins Park for the better. I suspect we haven't seen his hand in personnel decisions much, which is disappointing.

How so?