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View Poll Results: The 2014 Redskins HC Should Be
Art Briles 18 18.37%
Jay Gruden 36 36.73%
Jon Gruden 8 8.16%
Mike Shanahan 18 18.37%
Kevin Sumlin 18 18.37%
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Old 12-28-2013, 06:10 PM   #1
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Of course they will be! That is especially true of most media types. They somehow came to a consensus viewpoint on Dan Snyder and they have stuck to it for many years, regardless of any obvious changes that have occurred in the way he runs his franchise.

How good is the job? Well, to start with, there are only 32 NFL Head Coach jobs in the entire world! Only a small percentage of those jobs come open each year and the pool of jobs is more attractive in some years than in others.

This year, most of the job openings are not going to be very attractive, IMO. So, relatively speaking, the Redskins job would be more appealing this year than it would be in some other years. Because of this, I think that the Redskins will have many good candidates to choose from.
The Redskins HC job hasn't looked better in years, in my opinion.

1) It's been over decade since the QB position has looked any better. Any coaching candidate has to be optimistic about RG3's future cosidering he'll have a full off-season to prepare with the knee injury well in the rear view mirror. And if something happens to him, KC has proven to plenty capable. And both are VERY YOUNG and mold-able with long careers ahead of them. And even if KC isn't part of the future plans, he should translate into an extra draft pick.

2) 21 of this year's 22 starters won the division JUST LAST YEAR.

3) There will be plenty of opportunities to upgrade the talent level and add depth with w/ a full salary cap and every draft pick available except the first rounder. In the new coaches second season and beyond, he'll have a full draft to work with.

4) MONEY - say what you want about Snyder, but he will spend on coaches.

5) Any team that isn't searching for a starting QB is NOT in full rebuild mode. If the Skins can just get to being middle of the pack in Defense and Special Teams, they can contend for the division and both are possible in just a single off-season.

6) They'll be playing a last place schedule next year. Only 2 games, but everything helps.

7) The Skins play in the worst division in the league with 2 of the 4 team's starting QBs at the tail end of their careers.

8) Offensive talent - Garcon will likely end the season as the league leader in receptions, RG3, TW, 1600 yard rusher, dynamic TE coming back. Hank time is still in the early stages of his career and could possibly take the next step next year. I think the Offense is a top 5-10 unit AS-IS, but some O-line help and maybe an upgrade at WR2 with RG3's continued development can make this a perenniel top 5 Offense.

9) The DC area and fanbase. The Redskins are one of the most valuable sports franchises IN THE WORLD. This ain't Jacksonville or some city that has to compete with baseball or basketball. The Redskins are the king of DC sports and it's not even close. You win here and you're a GOD.
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Old 12-27-2013, 03:25 PM   #2
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So, the popular narrative is that the Redskins won't be able to find a good coach because they have been unstable at the position since Snyder has owned the team.

But it must be noted that since 1999 the Redskins have had six coaches not counting 3-game interim Terry Robiskie. The Cowboys have had five; so have the Lions (plus two interims). Is there any talk that those teams won't be able to find a coach if they decide to make a move? And don't tell me Snyder meddles and then look at Jerry Jones and say a coach would be more comfortable under him. And the Ford family does zip.

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Yes there has been similar talk of instability about all the organizations you mention .Many have said and believe that until Jerry Jones gives up the GM job they will suck .Same for the Lions after the Matt Millen disaster ,and yes the Jets also for years .
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Old 12-28-2013, 06:19 PM   #3
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So, the popular narrative is that the Redskins won't be able to find a good coach because they have been unstable at the position since Snyder has owned the team.

But it must be noted that since 1999 the Redskins have had six coaches not counting 3-game interim Terry Robiskie. The Cowboys have had five; so have the Lions (plus two interims). Is there any talk that those teams won't be able to find a coach if they decide to make a move? And don't tell me Snyder meddles and then look at Jerry Jones and say a coach would be more comfortable under him. And the Ford family does zip.

Head coach of the Redskins might not be the ideal job. But most of the ideal jobs aren't open and aren't going to open. The Redskins have a potential star QB in Robert Griffin III, a decent amount of cap room this year and a pretty well set up for the cap going forward, and an owner who will spend.

Is the Vikings job better with Adrian Peterson perhaps slowing down with a ton of money left on his contract and no solution to the QB position on the roster?

How about the Jets with their QB mess and circus atmosphere that makes DC look tame?

The Redskins job is not for everyone. Evidently Tony Dungy isn't interested but nobody really asked him, either. Some will think that other options are better. But even though it may not be the plum job of the NFL, it's better than others that will be open.

I think people will be surprised at the amount of interest there is in the job.
There is NO better option. Period. Houston has HUGE question marks at the QB position and until that position is settled, teams are in full-on rebuild mode. The chance to work with a young and dynamic QB that has elite potential should be enough all by itself. The reasons the Skins sucked so bad this year are extremely correctable and some, like the salary cap penalty, will work themselves out. Can't get much worse than 3-13 or 4-12, so the new coach has only upside ahead of him. Could be a great opportunity, in particular, for a college coach to make a name for himself.

People saying no one will want this job are ignorant. Only teams with crappy records look for new coaches, so they all appear to be bad jobs. The Skins HC position is as ideal as it gets.
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If briles comes here this is no longer the washingon redskins but the Washington Robert griffins. You don't let a stubborn arrogant young quarterback and his dad who lives vicariously through him bring in his college coach. What the hell kind of message does that send to the locker room. Atleast for 3 more years when rg3 is out of the league because he can't cut it as a pocket passer. Rg3 playing the way rg2 and rg3 want him to play is not sustainable. Kyle Shanahan tried to help him become a better pocket passer and he rejected the coaching. He's a diva and will ultimately proved to be a mistake that set the franchise back years.

Right now Lovie smith is the only available head coaching candidate that I think can actually do better than Shanahan here. I hope we can get him somehow.
My fucking dog could do better than Shanahan did here.
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My fucking dog could do better than Shanahan did here.
I don't know the first thing about your dog, but I'm inclined to agree with this.
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People have brought up the name Art Briles, who is to say that maybe Jerry Jones targets him as his next coach and doesn't have to move from Texas. Wouldn't surprise me.
I think Garrett will be back in Dallas next year.
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I think Garrett will be back in Dallas next year.
He was gone if Romo didn't make those annoying plays at the end of our game(at least that's my understanding), if they lose to the Eagles there is no way Garrett returns. I really am not sure a 9-7 playoff berth keeps him if they don't win the playoff game.
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So RG3 is now stubborn and arrogant?

The guy doesn't want to run the read option and would rather develop in to a pocket QB like all the fans want him to, so that makes him stubborn?

He's not pulling Falco and changing the plays called.

Head Coach and QB don't see eye to eye on some issues, so that makes the QB stubborn? You do realize that the head coach he might disagree with is 23-34 or something in Washington?

Just baffles me that people can label a guy arrogant and stubborn because he's done a few subway commercials.
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He was gone if Romo didn't make those annoying plays at the end of our game(at least that's my understanding), if they lose to the Eagles there is no way Garrett returns. I really am not sure a 9-7 playoff berth keeps him if they don't win the playoff game.
If they lose to the Eagles it is with Romo on the sideline though and that to might save his job. He is a perfect little yes man for Jerry.
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So RG3 is now stubborn and arrogant?

The guy doesn't want to run the read option and would rather develop in to a pocket QB like all the fans want him to, so that makes him stubborn?

He's not pulling Falco and changing the plays called.

Head Coach and QB don't see eye to eye on some issues, so that makes the QB stubborn? You do realize that the head coach he might disagree with is 23-34 or something in Washington?

Just baffles me that people can label a guy arrogant and stubborn because he's done a few subway commercials.
Im glad you finally realize that Shanny is a loser.
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Im glad you finally realize that Shanny is a loser.
Ive always been a realistic person. I supported Shanahan untill the club started having issues seeing eye to eye
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I'm on the Bill O'Brien buss with Rex Ryan or Ken Norton Jr. as DC. It's time for Snyder to spend his money on creating a star coach.
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I'm on the Bill O'Brien buss with Rex Ryan or Ken Norton Jr. as DC. It's time for Snyder to spend his money on creating a star coach.
Like he did with spurrier and zorn? The only successful seasons we've had under Snyder have been with proven established head coaches. We haven't had continued success with anyone. I don't think Snyder, or Allen for that matter, has the skill to pick the right college coach or nfl Coordinator who can step into the head coaching role and have immediate success
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Like he did with spurrier and zorn? The only successful seasons we've had under Snyder have been with proven established head coaches. We haven't had continued success with anyone. I don't think Snyder, or Allen for that matter, has the skill to pick the right college coach or nfl Coordinator who can step into the head coaching role and have immediate success
Yea cause Shanahan and Marty were really successful in Washington.

Also how many "established" super bowl winning coaches went on to win super bowls with other teams?
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Yea cause Shanahan and Marty were really successful in Washington.

Also how many "established" super bowl winning coaches went on to win super bowls with other teams?
They did better than the unproven hires. Gibbs and Shanahan had winning playoff seasons. Marty likely wouldn't have taken us to multiple playoff years had Snyder stuck with him.

Also, regarding the silly Brady-cousins comparison, no ones saying cousin is Brady. But Brady didn't become Brady right away either.
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