The coordinators

[Chief X_Phackter]

Not sure I can put this on Gruden. There are things going on that are out of his control that are probably keeping other, better candidates from wanting to be here. The ONLY bright spot about this team last season was the offense, and now we have a new OC, and maybe Colt McCoy as the QB since the front office and Danny boy can't seem to decide if Kirk is worth a big contract. Top that off with the lack of talent on the defensive side...it's just not an appealing job. They kept Manusky on in the first place for this very reason. Just imagine if they had fired everybody on the defensive staff. We would truly be scraping the bottom of the barrel. Hopefully Greg can turn this thing around defensively. They'll be middle of the pack at best though if they don't figure out how to get their heads out of their asses with the QB situation though.

[SFREDSKIN]

I must be the only one that likes this hire, I love his aggressiveness, intensity, leadership and passion. Haslett and Barry lacked those traits.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Oh, and when I say I can't put this on Gruden...I should say that if he had hired a more competent D Coordinator two years ago we probably would be playing today rather than hiring Greg Manusky, and wondering who our QB will be next year.

[MTK]

Talent > coaching

Until we upgrade the talent I don't care who the coach is

[FrenchSkin]

1) I've been on the enthusiastic side of this board all season long, I think I was one of the less mad about our defense people around here, I still think this D is only a few pieces away from being efficient...

But.

Meh is the word.

2) After the Manusky promotion, here are some of the things I need to happen during the offseason to keep my enthusiasm alive:

-KC signed to a long term deal.

-PG back.

-Solid FA signings and draft on the defensive side of the ball.

3) What do you guys think will happen at the OC position? I haven't heard nor read a lot about that... ? Matt Cavanaugh?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

1) I've been on the enthusiastic side of this board all season long, I think I was one of the less mad about our defense people around here, I still think this D is only a few pieces away from being efficient...

But.

Meh is the word.

2) After the Manusky promotion, here are some of the things I need to happen during the offseason to keep my enthusiasm alive:

-KC signed to a long term deal.

-PG back.

-Solid FA signings and draft on the defensive side of the ball.

3) What do you guys think will happen at the OC position? I haven't heard nor read a lot about that... ?

Likely Matt Cavanaugh is getting promoted, its why we hired a new QB coach earlier in the week.

http://www.hogshaven.com/2017/1/21/1...-likely-new-oc

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by MTK

Likely Matt Cavanaugh is getting promoted, its why we hired a new QB coach earlier in the week.

http://www.hogshaven.com/2017/1/21/1...-likely-new-oc

Yeah I just read that seconds after posting (edited my post), what do you think about that promotion?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Yeah I just read that seconds after posting (edited my post), what do you think about that promotion?

Fine with me, at the end of the day this is still Jay's offense and he will alway be heavily involved with it.

[SFREDSKIN]

No surprise Report: Redskins set to hire offensive coordinator

[diehardskin2982]

I have to see his staff addition and what type of philosophy will he use. He reminds me of Joe Barry, a proven good POSITIONAL Coach who will likely fail as a DC.

[DYoungJelly]

I don't see the offensive philosophy changing much with Cavanaugh as the OC. He is going to install Jay's offense and Jay is probably going to be calling the plays or dictating the play calling in some way.

[FrenchSkin]

The thing I like about these in house hirings is the "don't completely swipe the table after our 2 best seasons in ages" philosophy. But I admit this offseason has to be convincing.

[ethat001]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

The thing I like about these in house hirings is the "don't completely swipe the table after our 2 best seasons in ages" philosophy. But I admit this offseason has to be convincing.

Two best team seasons in ages DESPITE a horrific defense.. The D was the weak link, there's no reason not to swipe the table on D..

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by ethat001

Two best team seasons in ages DESPITE a horrific defense.. The D was the weak link, there's no reason not to swipe the table on D..

Yeah I was more talking about the Cavanaugh hiring.
On one hand they did swipe the table on the D when they fired half the staff...
Hey to be honest I'm just trying my best to see the bright side of this.

I think we have to be patient and hope FA and draft bring a massive input of defensive talent.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Still need 3 new coaches on defense, line, OLB, and secondary.

Offensive staff is set, I'm happy we went with Cavanaugh. If we can keep the same offense and improve red zone we'll be in a good place there.

I'm glad we have extra picks because we need a lot of help on defense, but I also think we need to draft RB, a TE who can block, and someone who can play g/c. Still leaves 6 picks for defense.