Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by MTK

I propose we change your name to Boomer Bob if we get a first back for him lol


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I second that

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ams-seek-trade



I will eat an economy sized plate of crow if he is traded for a first like may think.



This article also says he will become the highest paid, that is insanity considering his age and injury history.

I agree. I think the chance of trade for a first rounder draft pick is remote. He wants too much money, he’s too old and teams just don’t trade their first’s that easily.


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[GridIron26]

It seems like there's a good chance we will get a second round pick or higher although I would be surprised if we managed to get a first round pick in top 15 for Williams. We can easily draft a one of the top tackles if we get a top 15 1st round pick, which could resolve our LT issue quickly.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Saw a report that the Jets could offer both of their 3rd round picks, would you all take that for Trent??

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Saw a report that the Jets could offer both of their 3rd round picks, would you all take that for Trent??

In a land far away a long time ago during their 17 straight years of 10+ wins the 49ers with offensive line coach Bobb McKittrick had many a 3rd round or later pick evolve into a Pro Bowl lineman, one of them Jesse Sapolu was picked in the no longer existent 11th round. With good drafting and coaching you could replace both TW and Moses with a pair of 3rds. So I would definitely say yes to that trade.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Saw a report that the Jets could offer both of their 3rd round picks, would you all take that for Trent??

Yes, if that was the best deal on the table.

2 3R > 1 3R.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Yes, if that was the best deal on the table.

2 3R > 1 3R.

Agreed. And if there was a player you like in the 2nd, you could package those 2 3rd rounders for a second.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Saw a report that the Jets could offer both of their 3rd round picks, would you all take that for Trent??

Nope. You can't settle. He's under contract...he is essentially claiming to be the best LT in the game with the contract he is reportedly seeking. Therefore, the Redskins need to be compensated accordingly. Two 3rds is not fair compensation in my opinion.

[MTK]

I think we can do better than two 3rds


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[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by MTK

I think we can do better than two 3rds


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Probably, the Jets are negotiating, if they make it a 2nd and 3rd in 2020 that would probably do it.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

2nd and a 3rd in 2020 is the minimum I'd even consider. Otherwise, I'd rather have Trent play the final year, walk in 2021 and get a compensatory pick in 2022.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

2nd and a 3rd in 2020 is the minimum I'd even consider. Otherwise, I'd rather have Trent play the final year, walk in 2021 and get a compensatory pick in 2022.

Except:
- he wont report or play for us next year (safe assumption)
- next year therefore will not count as accrued so he wont be FA eligible
- we then are in the same boat we are in now, except hes another year older
- even if he leaves in FA, a comp pick is not guaranteed bc we would have to make sure we dont sign an offsetting FA

We can continue to act like Bruce Allen or we can take the best offer and move on.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Except:
- he wont report or play for us next year (safe assumption)
- next year therefore will not count as accrued so he wont be FA eligible
- we then are in the same boat we are in now, except hes another year older
- even if he leaves in FA, a comp pick is not guaranteed bc we would have to make sure we dont sign an offsetting FA

We can continue to act like Bruce Allen or we can take the best offer and move on.

No one thinks Trent sits out another year. Especially after he talks to teams and finds out none of them are going to pay him the $25M he was asking from Rivera. This has always been at least 90% about the money. Several reporters have mentioned that Trent was more willing to sit out last year because he could make up for his lost 2019 salary on his next contract. He's certainly finding out from other teams now that that is almost certainly not going to be the case. So there's no way he's going to compound his mistake by missing out on another 12 Million dollars in 2020 (24 million over 2 years).

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

No one thinks Trent sits out another year.

Tough call, this is all future hypothetical speak right now so who really knows.

I think its 60% he doesnt report at all if not traded, 40% he does at week 8 or whatever the cut off is to have the season accrue. I just dont see him reporting week 1 and wanting to suit up.

Id rather take 2 3Rs vs "hoping" he reports week 1. What if he doesnt report until week 8 ... that would be a major misplay of our poker hand imo .. all for the hope a 2R and 3R vs 2 3Rs. Payoff is not worth the risk imo. If all you can get is 2 3rs, id take it if that is the best offer we have by say mid August.

Get the best offer you can and move on.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Tough call, this is all future hypothetical speak right now so who really knows.

I think its 60% he doesnt report at all if not traded, 40% he does at week 8 or whatever the cut off is to have the season accrue. I just dont see him reporting week 1 and wanting to suit up.

Id rather take 2 3Rs vs "hoping" he reports week 1. What if he doesnt report until week 8 ... that would be a major misplay of our poker hand imo .. all for the hope a 2R and 3R vs 2 3Rs. Payoff is not worth the risk imo. If all you can get is 2 3rs, id take it if that is the best offer we have by say mid August.

Get the best offer you can and move on.

Reporters who have talked to the parties involved know there is no way Trent sits out another year. And it doesn't make sense that he would. He would be cutting off his nose to spite his face - exactly what Bruce Allen did last year by refusing to budge.

As to taking two 3Rs now to hedge against Trent not showing up week 1 - that would be very short sighted. A teams starting LT could be hurt during training camp or early on in the season, in which case the price goes up. If we're not getting offers of fair value (minimum of a second), then there is no urgency to take pennies on the dollar prior this far in advance of the trade deadline.

And if Trent really wanted to be out ASAP, he could agree to take a smaller contract from his new team in exchange for them agreeing to providing proper compensation.