Redskins Patriots game thread.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Yeah keep ARE. The young guys are only going to help out his game.

ARE is at worst the #3 receiver on the squad...the young guys just haven't proved anything yet....but wow...marko?
I am waiting for him to screw up...but he just doesn't do it...the guy is like cooley in the endzone....oh yeah...dont we have probs in the red zone?
how about Cooely and Marko left and right?

I am frankly a littlle sad about Davis just being vanilla at TE so far

[MTK]

I was skeptical of Marko initially but I've been impressed with him the last 2 weeks. He just looks like a NFL WR in the way he runs routes, catches, and blocks. He's got that "it" factor.

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I was skeptical of Marko initially but I've been impressed with him the last 2 weeks. He just looks like a NFL WR in the way he runs routes, catches, and blocks. He's got that "it" factor.

Agreed....liking this guy. Still say he looks alot like a wannabe R. Moss out there.

[GusFrerotte]

That is what I mean by the young guys helping ARE. They all have potential and will make great strides as the season goes. Secondaries won't be able to double Moss or ARE now, as another WR threat will exist.

[skinsnut]

There are significant improvements roster wise if they keep Chris Wilson at olb and Marko Mitchell at WR and Marcus Mason at RB.
Oline and kicker are still up for grabs as well as #3 QB.
Chase still seems way more NFL stable to me than Colt...but we wont know until game #4.

Horton, Barnes are soliid, Tryon is still on the fence, Tryon has improved but is not as good as westbrook...as crazy as that seems....our kicker is up for grabs...Mike Williams will not likley make the cut at this point.
We have signifiant Pass rushiing dept probs at OT.
Samuals has declined...not to mention RT
Our backup TE is stilll weak due to reps issues.
Our Olb's have major issues.
Our premium CB declined significantly which requres safety support...which is sad....Deangelo aint no healty Shaun Springs
(I see us drafting a CB or LOT #1 draft pick next yr.)

I am really suprised at the adjustment zorn has made to go deep.
A MAJOR one game improvement!

The other issus is this....our offense needs significant misdiriecrion, reverses, screens, play action, shotgun, hurry up, etc

Standard offense scheming, outperforming a professional defensive scheme is not enough to out produce a team optimize for maximizing points

[53Fan]

Maybe Zorns going deep now because he can.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Maybe Zorns going deep now because he can.

That may certainly be true considering the sudden coming of age with the wideouts.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

That may certainly be true considering the sudden coming of age with the wideouts.

The fact that the receivers were consistently running wide open was one of my biggest takeaways from last night. Looks like Zorn might know what he's doing when it comes to the play calling and the receivers are doing a good job of route running. I'm sure Campbell will become more consistent with deeper passes as long as they keep dialing them up. Practice makes perfect.

[tootergray34]

this is what happens when morons try to explain the wonders of pre-season. yes Marko looked incredible, but what would he do if he was in there with the first stringers? All of his action...or let's say a solid majority has been in the 2nd half when he is playing vs. watered down competition. Oh...and beating Carlos Rogers in practice doesn't count, Rogers is an awful corner.

I felt the real story about tonights game, was our lack of secondary play, minus Horton who I feel is going to emerge as a leader out here, Hall looked mediocre...certainly for the amount of money we are paying him, and I can't even remember the last time I saw Landry pop somebody. Seriously...I read an article prepping Landry to be the next Ed Reed...while that may sound crazy he could actually do it if people feared him. Like a certain someone who used to wear #21 out there.

Overall I was pleased, but i'd like our Offense to sustain drives and give our Defense a break, I feel the biggest reason we trailed off our success last year is our starting O not being able to give our D a good enough rest.

[killromo]

Originally Posted by tootergray34

this is what happens when morons try to explain the wonders of pre-season. yes Marko looked incredible, but what would he do if he was in there with the first stringers? All of his action...or let's say a solid majority has been in the 2nd half when he is playing vs. watered down competition. Oh...and beating Carlos Rogers in practice doesn't count, Rogers is an awful corner.

Marko looked good sticking with the play and blocking downfield for Cooley's big catch and run. He tied up 2 guys and definitely was responsible for at least 20-25 yards of that YAC for Cooley. Consequently that play was with the first team. It made me happy to see him not just catching balls but contributing in other ways, he is definitely a keeper. Maybe this year's nice surprise like Horton was last year.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by killromo

Marko looked good sticking with the play and blocking downfield for Cooley's big catch and run. He tied up 2 guys and definitely was responsible for at least 20-25 yards of that YAC for Cooley. Consequently that play was with the first team. It made me happy to see him not just catching balls but contributing in other ways, he is definitely a keeper. Maybe this year's nice surprise like Horton was last year.

Good call. Downfield blocking is something we haven't done a good job of, so it's good to see the rookie taking it seriously. Another reason size is such a plus at the WR position. Maybe he'll motivate the starters. Maybe we'll see some Portis bust some long runs as a result.

[SirClintonPortis]

I liked what Phil Simms said about Zorn and Campbell:(paraphrasing from memory here) Zorn said he drew up new plays to take advantage of the fact Campbell has a big arm and can stretch the field with ease.

[skinsfan69]

Lot's of positives and negatives. 3 straight 3 and outs was terrible but I love the way we hung in there and came back. If that was last year the game was over. The pass rush was weak. Haynesworth looks like he needs to get into better shape. When he got double teamed NO ONE could get any pressure. Daniels and Carter need to be spelled some with the younger guys. Smoot played his ass off. When JC had time he was throwing the ball like a mad man. I hope he goes out and has a career year. Marko Mitchell is for real!!!!

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Lot's of positives and negatives. 3 straight 3 and outs was terrible but I love the way we hung in there and came back. If that was last year the game was over. The pass rush was weak. Haynesworth looks like he needs to get into better shape. When he got double teamed NO ONE could get any pressure. Daniels and Carter need to be spelled some with the younger guys. Smoot played his ass off. When JC had time he was throwing the ball like a mad man. I hope he goes out and has a career year. Marko Mitchell is for real!!!!

Agreed. Good post.

[Monkeydad]

I was very impressed by JC this game...so happy he finally shut up the critics, at least for one night.

He'll have a great year.

I am very proud of the whole team, last time we faced the Pats, we were killed on both sides of the ball. If our starters played the whole game, we could have beaten them. Portis would have also been a bonus that we didn't even need to keep up with them in the first half.

I blame Suisham for the loss. "But it was 52 yards and wet!" Yeah, he never hits 50+ yarders, regardless of the weather. He never could and obviously never will. He's paid to make these kicks and if he can't...goodbye. Rayner looked great on kickoffs and even though his FG was shorter, he made it. I saw cut Suisham, we've seen what he can and can't do for too long.

Colt is making BAD red zone decisions, but otherwise looks good, he's able to take us into the red zone. He won't hit the field anyways, so he could still be a good future backup since he'll have this season to work on decision-making. The physical abilities are obviously solid.

Chase is such a tough QB to say we have to cut...he's going to be picked up by someone if we do and has just as much promise as Brennan.

I can't decide between the QBs. I am leaning Brennan, but it's too close to call.