Broncos to trade Cutler

[NYCskinfan82]

I agree if we take the bait 8-8 at best we have bigger needs, if we do the deal i hope Zorn knows if we don't do good he will be gone and they will bring in Mike Shannahan.

[Ruhskins]

It's scary when you have two bad FO dealing with each other. If I were Denver, I would take this April Fool's joke seriously and make the following offer:

McCown was amused by an April Fool's joke played by FOX Sports Radio that 'reported' Wednesday night Cutler had been traded to the Bucs for first and third round picks and defensive tackle Chris Hovan.

Once again, I feel that other teams have better offers than the Redskins, yet Denver will take our offer b/c they are just as stupid as we are for wanting to trade for Cutler.

[Dirtbag59]

Let me stress this again. One of our biggest problems over the last few years has been the inability to score in the Red Zone. I don't know the exact numbers but I wouldn't feel bad pitting Cutlers 25 TD passes against Campbell's 13 TD passes. And don't go off on Cutler having better recievers. 9/10 QB's make the recievers great, not the other way around.

Those 2 QB points are farther apart then you might think. Though I do get frustrated that people are trying to now pass off the O-Line as something that isn't important. "Oh Big Ben won without a good O-Line." The better argument for Cutler should be that he'll make quicker decisions and as a result our line will have more energy near the end of the game as the seconds saved pile up. Not "oh O-line isn't that important."

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Let me stress this again. One of our biggest problems over the last few years has been the inability to score in the Red Zone. I don't know the exact numbers but I wouldn't feel bad pitting Cutlers 25 TD passes against Campbell's 13 TD passes. And don't go off on Cutler having better recievers. 9/10 QB's make the recievers great, not the other way around.

Red Zone scoring has been a problem, but I wouldn't say the cause is Campbell not being able to pull the trigger. Cutler had 17TDs in the RZ last year, Campbell 11TDs. I would say the issue with RZ scoring prior to last year had a lot to do with playcalling. This year I would say the OL was the major issue later in the year. This and last it also has a lot to do with no big receiver on the outside to widen the defense in the RZ. The short WRs we have can't go up top in the back corner of the end-zone and force the DBs to play straight up. The opposing DBs have been able to cheat inside knowing they can adjust and stop a fade to a sub 5'10" WR. The Broncos have Marshall. Overall I would say the WR corps in Denver is NOT "leaps and bounds" better than us, but inside the RZ, a receiver like Marshall is very important.

Those 2 QB points are farther apart then you might think. Though I do get frustrated that people are trying to now pass off the O-Line as something that isn't important. "Oh Big Ben won without a good O-Line." The better argument for Cutler should be that he'll make quicker decisions and as a result our line will have more energy near the end of the game as the seconds saved pile up. Not "oh O-line isn't that important."

Agree with your point on Cutler having a quicker release and making a split-second faster decisions (not to say I think JC is bad at these things, just Cutler is a bit better), but his upside over Campbell isn't worth the package Denver is asking for.

[NoviSkins]

From the looks of it, Matty better get started on a Cutler Avatar.

[mredskins]

Personally other then Danny I think the second most person exicited about this draft is Campbell. He gets out of WAS, goes to easier divison works Josh Mcdaniels and has better weapons (WRS). no wonder he is cool head he is praying this thing goes through.

[Twilbert07]

Wow, Wilbon really hates the Redskins, doesn't he?

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[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

Wow, Wilbon really hates the Redskins, doesn't he?

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Well he laid it out there.

[RedTempleSkin]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Well he laid it out there.

Synder needs to read this, especially the part on developing players and the success of the Colts, Steelers, Patriots and Giants. They are the last 4 super bowl winners.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

Wow, Wilbon really hates the Redskins, doesn't he?

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The one quote from the article that struck me was this: "As much as I like Cutler personally, I wonder about any kid who would say his arm is stronger than John Elway's."

First, I didn't know Cutler said this. But since he has, it's just another reason to stop the trade-bus right now. Elway is an icon in Denver, whether Cutler has a stronger arm or not (I agree with Wilbon, it's not even close to Elway's) he should have enough maturity and common sense not to say something like that. At QB, mental clarity and composure are more important that arm strength (Joe Montana: smart & great under pressure/arm strength sub-par and Jeff George: cannon-arm/dumb-ass come to mind). At this point I'm not willing to give up anything or even do a straight up swap of Cutler for Campbell. We know Campbell will only progress, not regress like Cutler could if he losses his mind and can't adjust under Zorn.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

Wow, Wilbon really hates the Redskins, doesn't he?

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Awesome article!! I couldn't have said it better myself. I'm not Wilbon fan, but he nailed it on this article.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

Wow, Wilbon really hates the Redskins, doesn't he?

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Actually I always thought Wilbon has a soft spot for the Skins, but this lunacy is making many a fan -who thought Gibbs 2's lesson were all about patience, winning from within, character counts etc - sick. At least it is making me sick.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

Wow, Wilbon really hates the Redskins, doesn't he?

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I find it hard to argue with any of his points.

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I find it hard to argue with any of his points.

I agree that Wilbon brings up several legitimate points. The column makes the Skins seem so lost as an organization. I hope it's not that bad.

[GMScud]

Anyone who makes excuses for Cutler's record on account of Denver's poor defense need look no further than our injured, decaying offensive line for Campbell's struggles down the stretch last year.

Both players were 8-8 last year with nearly identical passer ratings. We were a much more run oriented team last year, and Denver lost like 8 RBs to injury. Their O-line was superior to ours, especially in pass protection, not to mention their receivers WAY outperformed ours. They threw more often due to a piss poor defense and decimated backfield, thus the inflated yardage stats.

Another thing to consider is the caliber of defenses each QB faced. Denver got to see the likes of the AFC West. We play the Giants, Eagles, and Cowboys twice apiece, not too mention the likes of Pitt and Baltimore.

Cutler is no more of a winner or leader than Jason, side by side their passing efficiency is very similar, and Jason throws far less INTs.

Again, in a straight up deal I'd take Cutler of JC. But what we're supposedly offering for this crybaby malcontent is just too much IMO.