I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

[redskins5044]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

Won't happen....but that would be nice.

Cardinals or Jets for Manning

[TheMalcolmConnection]

My issue is that if we're going to be mired in mediocrity, we have to be willing to take seasons like the one we just took. As a fan base, while we've been patient after our last Super Bowl win, we have been far too vocal and impatient when it comes to coaching/owners/players.

I 100% guarantee that if we get a new QB and he doesn't perform at a Pro Bowl level and maybe we go 7-9 or 8-8, Skins fans will go apeshit.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

My issue is that if we're going to be mired in mediocrity, we have to be willing to take seasons like the one we just took. As a fan base, while we've been patient after our last Super Bowl win, we have been far too vocal and impatient when it comes to coaching/owners/players.

I 100% guarantee that if we get a new QB and he doesn't perform at a Pro Bowl level and maybe we go 7-9 or 8-8, Skins fans will go apeshit.

Is that saying if he does that in year 2 or 3? If so, I say yeah. Year 1 though? Nah, or at least I wouldn't.

Btw I'm thinking of switching from my iphone to boost mobile.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Is that saying if he does that in year 2 or 3? If so, I say yeah. Year 1 though? Nah, or at least I wouldn't.

Btw I'm thinking of switching from my iphone to boost mobile.

Well, do you think two straight years of 8-8 while still adding quality youth is acceptable? I mean I do, and I think a lot of us here are willing to be patient, but the fan base as a whole, especially the DC media will start putting tons of pressure.

We're talking about the Texans in another thread and they're a PERFECT example of teams who put together quality seasons even though their records weren't amazing, they stayed the course as an organization and as a fan base.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Well, do you think two straight years of 8-8 while still adding quality youth is acceptable? I mean I do, and I think a lot of us here are willing to be patient, but the fan base as a whole, especially the DC media will start putting tons of pressure.

We're talking about the Texans in another thread and they're a PERFECT example of teams who put together quality seasons even though their records weren't amazing, they stayed the course as an organization and as a fan base.

I love what the Texans did this year, first off.


But when you have a Great RB, a GREAT WR, and a good QB like Schaub, all they needed was a defense. They got a Great D Coordinator and drafted and signed a couple FA's and bang! They had a top 5 defense. The Texans were always a team that people would say was playoff bound ('This is there year they have a cardinals-like run in the playoffs!' I've heard that for 3 straight years now...)

[NC_Skins]

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I see Smoot has been moonlighting as a Rams fan.

Check this crazy ass rumor out.

You heard it here first! I got a phone call from a fellow former Scout friend that has ties to the Cleveland browns, and he said that there is so much excitement around the "Browns" camp that they can barely stand it! Apparently, "Jeff Fisher" had a meeting with "Sam Bradford" the day he arrived at Rams Park and told him ( Bradford ) that they were trading him to Cleveland!



I was also told by a different source after I hung up with my friend, that "Fisher" wouldn't have taken the job with the Rams unless he had full control of selecting "Robert Griffin III." I never would have dreamed this in a million years!!!! More than that, "Fisher" says that he would have STILL taken "RGIII" even if the Rams had the # 1. Pick in the Draft!



My Buddy told me that the "Browns" wanted "RG3" as well, but the Rams told them that there was no way they were going to get him, so "DEAL WITH IT!" When I heard that, I about fell off my chair, because before that, I just thought that maybe it was nothing more than a rumor. But I know for a fact personally, that one of "Jeff Fisher's" favorite sayings is..."DEAL WITH IT!"


If all this is true, I'm sure ESPN already knows about this and will release it right around Super Bowl Sunday. Personally, I think it's a dumb trade unless the Rams get BOTH of the "Browns" 1st Round picks ( #4 & # 22 ) but I couldn't get any kind of confirmation about the trade itself. I can only assume that both # 1's are involved. I cant even imagine the Rams getting BOTH "RG3" and "KALIL!" Again, never in my WILDEST dreams did I think Cleveland was DUMB ENOUGH to give up both 1st Rounds. Wow!!!

Sounds like he pulled it out of his ass.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

My issue is that if we're going to be mired in mediocrity, we have to be willing to take seasons like the one we just took. As a fan base, while we've been patient after our last Super Bowl win, we have been far too vocal and impatient when it comes to coaching/owners/players.

I 100% guarantee that if we get a new QB and he doesn't perform at a Pro Bowl level and maybe we go 7-9 or 8-8, Skins fans will go apeshit.

With all due respect, this is completely wrong. After the ridiculously horrible teams and below average quarterback play we have witnessed the past decade and a half, if we get youth on this squad, try and build through the draft, and quit signing veteran players for way too much, then the fanbase will "take their lumps".

That is, with one variable.

Better quarterback play, or at least quarterback play with a little promise. If we have back to back 7-9 or 8-8 seasons, but have a capable rookie at the helm, and understand that the pieces are being put in place, and the team will take a year or two to completely "gel", then I hope that we as skins fans can see the light at the end of the tunnel. 7-9 or 8-8 would bring our squad out of the cellar, and might just end our reign as the laughing stock of the league. But it all hinges on quarterback play, and that all depends on the front office and how they plan on getting him here.

7-9 with a nice young rookie showing promise, acceptable.

7-9 with Rex Grossman at the helm, again leading the league in fumbles and turnovers, unnacceptable.

[redskin29633]

[quote=Mechanix544;881962]With all due respect, this is completely wrong. After the ridiculously horrible teams and below average quarterback play we have witnessed the past decade and a half, if we get youth on this squad, try and build through the draft, and quit signing veteran players for way too much, then the fanbase will "take their lumps".

That is, with one variable.

Better quarterback play, or at least quarterback play with a little promise. If we have back to back 7-9 or 8-8 seasons, but have a capable rookie at the helm, and understand that the pieces are being put in place, and the team will take a year or two to completely "gel", then I hope that we as skins fans can see the light at the end of the tunnel. 7-9 or 8-8 would bring our squad out of the cellar, and might just end our reign as the laughing stock of the league. But it all hinges on quarterback play, and that all depends on the front office and how they plan on getting him here.

7-9 with a nice young rookie showing promise, acceptable.

7-9 with Rex Grossman at the helm, again leading the league in fumbles and turnovers, unnacceptable./quote]

I disagree with this last statement. If Redskins do enough to get to 7-9, show some real improvement, and we have to wait another year for a quality QB, or a drafted QB to develop and learn the system, then that's OK with me. It would show measurable progress and offer hope for the future.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Ok don't kill me here guys, but there are good stories in the NFL about building teams through the draft, but there are also teams who have been building through the draft and getting the same poor results for years.

IE: Browns, Tampa, Carolina, Jags, even the Chiefs and the Lions, yeah some of these teams have had a good year a time or two. AND yes I realize I put the Lions on this list, but they are still the Lions. We are going to need to see a change for years not one goods season.

I know we need to put an emphasis on the draft but bringing in a few good FAs is a good move for this franchise as we need more depth and players all across the board.

Man I do believe in the FO because I am a huge fan , but I want to see some results this year!!

Sorry for the thread highjack, just needed to ramble on some random thoughts for a minute.

TMC- I don't know how long a fan base is suppose to stay patient when we are talking about a 20 year period with only three playoff seasons, one NFC East Championship, and 2 playoff wins. Back in the 80s and into 90 and 91 we had a team we could honestly expect to be good and contend each year.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Carolina is a good defense away from the playoffs and with Jon Beason, Charles Godfrey, Thomas Davis, and James Anderson returning from injury and a top 10 pick to be used on defense dont be surprised to see the Panthers in the thick of it next year.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Carolina is a good defense away from the playoffs and with Jon Beason, Charles Godfrey, Thomas Davis, and James Anderson returning from injury and a top 10 pick to be used on defense dont be surprised to see the Panthers in the thick of it next year.

With Cam Newton, they'll be in the thick of the playoff discussion for years to come. They just need to add a few more pieces here and there.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Quake I wouldn't either. I was just trying to say that even though there are great successes building through the draft there are also franchises failing year in and year out at trying to do it that way. The Bills are another example of a perennial loser building through the draft year in and year out.

[The Goat]

Panthers could be a good story, and no matter what they're fun to watch!!

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

I wouldn't call the Panthers perrenial losers though. Bills? Yes. Rams? Yes. Panthers? No.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I wouldn't call the Panthers perrenial losers though. Bills? Yes. Rams? Yes. Panthers? No.

They are in the Yo-yo division. With Atlanta, Cincinnati, and San Diego rounding out the rest.