Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 03-14-2012, 02:13 PM

Add to that, that you can cut a player now and designate him as a June 1 cut allowing the player to ge a new team and the team to save the extra cap money. Talked about it a while ago in the thread.

12thMan · 03-14-2012, 02:15 PM

I guess my point is I don't think we'll cut Moss and Gaffney. We need seasoned hands on the roster.

GTripp0012 · 03-14-2012, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

I guess my point is I don't think we'll cut Moss and Gaffney. We need seasoned hands on the roster.

I would be lying if I said I know what they are planning, because these FA signings came totally out of left field for me. But I think the seasoned hands you speak of ARE the players they've signed.

The only guy from last year who is safe at this point is Hankerson, who has the inside track to start at the X position.

12thMan · 03-14-2012, 03:04 PM

JLC just reported had not the 'Skins moved up for RGIII, Garcon was going to sign with San Diego.

The Goat · 03-14-2012, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

JLC just reported had not the 'Skins moved up for RGIII, Garcon was going to sign with San Diego.

Interesting...not surprising though. RGIII is already paying off?!

skinsfaninok · 03-14-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

JLC just reported had not the 'Skins moved up for RGIII, Garcon was going to sign with San Diego.

Well would u wanna play with Rex?

12thMan · 03-14-2012, 03:10 PM

I hear you, but I think -- hope -- they would at least retain the services of Mr. Jabar Gaffney.

REDSKINS4ever · 03-14-2012, 04:43 PM

Antonio Freeman, former Packers wide receiver, doesn't think the Redskins have a game changer with Garcon, Morgan, and possibly Royal. But that remains to be seen. Just because the Redskins didn't land Colston, Marshall, or V. Jackson, people like Freeman(some NFL analysts) are saying that the Redskins didn't upgrade- that they overpaid for a trio of #2 receivers. I don't think that's the case and we won't know until nearly halfway through the season.

44Deezel · 03-14-2012, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Antonio Freeman, former Packers wide receiver, doesn't think the Redskins have a game changer with Garcon, Morgan, and possibly Royal. But that remains to be seen. Just because the Redskins didn't land Colston, Marshall, or V. Jackson, people like Freeman(some NFL analysts) are saying that the Redskins didn't upgrade- that they overpaid for a trio of #2 receivers. I don't think that's the case and we won't know until nearly halfway through the season.

It all comes down to QB play. Playmakers schmaymakers!

44Deezel · 03-14-2012, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Antonio Freeman, former Packers wide receiver, doesn't think the Redskins have a game changer with Garcon, Morgan, and possibly Royal. But that remains to be seen. Just because the Redskins didn't land Colston, Marshall, or V. Jackson, people like Freeman(some NFL analysts) are saying that the Redskins didn't upgrade- that they overpaid for a trio of #2 receivers. I don't think that's the case and we won't know until nearly halfway through the season.

He's a big dum-dum. Zero evidence that the teams with the most playmakers win the Super Bowl each year. If and when RGIII becomes an elite passer in the NFL, he will make playmakers out of whoever he's throwing to. See Mario Manningham and David Tyree.

Giantone · 03-14-2012, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 44Deezel

He's a big dum-dum. Zero evidence that the teams with the most playmakers win the Super Bowl each year. If and when RGIII becomes an elite passer in the NFL, he will make playmakers out of whoever he's throwing to. See Mario Manningham and David Tyree.

Same can be said for any reciever that Peyton Manning threw to.

44Deezel · 03-14-2012, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

Same can be said for any reciever that Peyton Manning threw to.

Precisely. And Steelers turned over WRs and won a second.

Skins4L · 03-14-2012, 05:01 PM

I dont want Royal too. It will remind me of `06 when we picked up 6 WRs and Brandon Lloyd had like 6 catches all year we had 40 mid tier WRs. We have enough after Pierre & Josh.

GTripp0012 · 03-14-2012, 05:05 PM

Fwiw, the Eagles are overpaying DeSean Jackson as well. Not quite by as much as we're lining Garcon's pockets in excess of his value, but in the same way that neither team will be able to get value on the contract until year 3 at the earliest, assuming the player even makes it there.

GTripp0012 · 03-14-2012, 05:31 PM

Garcon's yards per target are:

2009 - 8.2
2010 - 7.2
2011 - 7.1

The 2009 figure was primarily a function of going deep about 8-10% more often than in the other years, i.e. being the third receiver. As the second receiver when Austin Collie was injured/ineffective, his effectiveness dropped by about a yard per target.

Reggie Wayne in the same timeframe (for context):

2009 - 8.1
2010 - 7.7
2011 - 7.3

Same drop-off, but not as steep.

03-14-2012, 02:13 PM	#1
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan Add to that, that you can cut a player now and designate him as a June 1 cut allowing the player to ge a new team and the team to save the extra cap money. Talked about it a while ago in the thread. __________________ Just win.

03-14-2012, 03:04 PM	#4
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan JLC just reported had not the 'Skins moved up for RGIII, Garcon was going to sign with San Diego.

03-14-2012, 03:10 PM	#7
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan I hear you, but I think -- hope -- they would at least retain the services of Mr. Jabar Gaffney.

03-14-2012, 04:43 PM	#8
REDSKINS4ever Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 4,117	re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan Antonio Freeman, former Packers wide receiver, doesn't think the Redskins have a game changer with Garcon, Morgan, and possibly Royal. But that remains to be seen. Just because the Redskins didn't land Colston, Marshall, or V. Jackson, people like Freeman(some NFL analysts) are saying that the Redskins didn't upgrade- that they overpaid for a trio of #2 receivers. I don't think that's the case and we won't know until nearly halfway through the season.

03-14-2012, 05:01 PM	#13
Skins4L Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 886	re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan I dont want Royal too. It will remind me of `06 when we picked up 6 WRs and Brandon Lloyd had like 6 catches all year we had 40 mid tier WRs. We have enough after Pierre & Josh. __________________ ALL HAIL

03-14-2012, 02:15 PM	#2
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan I guess my point is I don't think we'll cut Moss and Gaffney. We need seasoned hands on the roster.

03-14-2012, 05:05 PM	#14
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 38 Posts: 15,994	re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan Fwiw, the Eagles are overpaying DeSean Jackson as well. Not quite by as much as we're lining Garcon's pockets in excess of his value, but in the same way that neither team will be able to get value on the contract until year 3 at the earliest, assuming the player even makes it there. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

03-14-2012, 05:31 PM	#15
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 38 Posts: 15,994	re: Redskins Add WRs Pierre Garcon and Joshua Morgan Garcon's yards per target are: 2009 - 8.2 2010 - 7.2 2011 - 7.1 The 2009 figure was primarily a function of going deep about 8-10% more often than in the other years, i.e. being the third receiver. As the second receiver when Austin Collie was injured/ineffective, his effectiveness dropped by about a yard per target. Reggie Wayne in the same timeframe (for context): 2009 - 8.1 2010 - 7.7 2011 - 7.3 Same drop-off, but not as steep. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

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