Mark Sanchez at 13th?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Fair point, if you're going to move in another direction, why not move now? I just don't understand why they feel the need to move on from Campbell. I like Sanchez (much more than Stafford) but is he that much of an improvement over Campbell? Heck, why not just trade for Leinart?

Disqualified because he throws with the same hand as Brunell.

[SmootSmack]

BHA, guess I misremembered. I thought you had said you didn't like the hiring of Zorn earlier this year

[GTripp0012]

I have no idea how Sanchez has "it" while Quinn and Campbell don't. Seems like an easy way to draw a line between the two with no other good reason to do so.

I agree that Quinn and Campbell are very similar in most respects. One of those respects is that they seem to be stronger players than Sanchez, based at least on the law of averages.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I have no idea how Sanchez has "it" while Quinn and Campbell don't. Seems like an easy way to draw a line between the two with no other good reason to do so.

I agree that Quinn and Campbell are very similar in most respects. One of those respects is that they seem to be stronger players than Sanchez, based at least on the law of averages.

I don't know why Collins doesn't have "it"? He's done something that none of these guys have; he's taken us to the play-offs. Of course that doesn't mean anything if you've a lot of money and spend it like a kid in the candy store.

What do I know? I'm just a fan.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I have no idea how Sanchez has "it" while Quinn and Campbell don't. Seems like an easy way to draw a line between the two with no other good reason to do so.

I agree that Quinn and Campbell are very similar in most respects. One of those respects is that they seem to be stronger players than Sanchez, based at least on the law of averages.

GT just curious whether u think JC will get a chance to start elsewhere after Snyder finds a way to dump him?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Just a couple of tidbits I heard on ESPN today:

First for all those enamored with Sanchez: On Cowherd's show (while a Skins bashing a-hole, he does from time-to-time make a good point or two). Paraphrased "Of QBs taken with picks in the top 12 overall in the last 8 years (I believe), there were a total of 18, 11 are generally considered busts, 2 the jury's still out, and 5 are hits." So on the high end 38% and on the low end 27.7% are the chances that Sanchez will be the "QB of the future" for the Skins. Are you JC basher/Sanchez/Quinn lovers willing to risk at a minimum two 1 round picks and a 4th, on what is a sub-38% chance of success.

Second, Mike Torico (sp?) mentioned that he doesn't even talk with NFL people at this time of year because all you get is misinformation and I believe he used the phrase "a bunch of smoke".

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Just a couple of tidbits I heard on ESPN today:

First for all those enamored with Sanchez: On Cowherd's show (while a Skins bashing a-hole, he does from time-to-time make a good point or two). Paraphrased "Of QBs taken with picks in the top 12 overall in the last 8 years (I believe), there were a total of 18, 11 are generally considered busts, 2 the jury's still out, and 5 are hits." So on the high end 38% and on the low end 27.7% are the chances that Sanchez will be the "QB of the future" for the Skins. Are you JC basher/Sanchez/Quinn lovers willing to risk at a minimum two 1 round picks and a 4th, on what is a sub-38% chance of success.

Second, Mike Torico (sp?) mentioned that he doesn't even talk with NFL people at this time of year because all you get is misinformation and I believe he used the phrase "a bunch of smoke".

Yes. Today I read one article which said we were moving up to draft Sanchez and the very next article I read said the Skins-Sanchez thing was all smoke. One article said the Browns would take Sanchez, the next one said that the Browns didn't want Sanchez and desperately wanted to trade down.

The point: I'm not going to believe ANYTHING this week until I see picks with my own eyes on Saturday afternoon.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Yes. Today I read one article which said we were moving up to draft Sanchez and the very next article I read said the Skins-Sanchez thing was all smoke. One article said the Browns would take Sanchez, the next one said that the Browns didn't want Sanchez and desperately wanted to trade down.

The point: I'm not going to believe ANYTHING this week until I see picks with my own eyes on Saturday afternoon.

I like to think I have a bit more access to the inner machinations of NFL teams than many...but come this time of year, none of us has any idea. This is definitely the most confused about the Redskins' thoughts as I've been in a long time (and they're generally very confusing). What's most interesting in all of this it that seems that the one guy (the one key guy that is) that doesn't seem to enamored with Sanchez either by trading up or taking him at 13 is Cerrato.

[Ruhskins]

Looks like Darth Hoody Jr. is looking at Mark Sanchez...

NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Broncos will workout QB Sanchez in Los Angeles «

[The Goat]

This is from WalterFootball.com, discussing a scenario where we trade up to 8 for Sanchez. I tend to see it this way:

Redskins Trade Up for Mark Sanchez: Daniel Snyder is a smart businessman, but he's proven that he has absolutely no clue when it comes to football decisions. Though he traded up for Jason Campbell and never provided the Auburn product with a consistent playbook, Snyder now wants Mark Sanchez to be the face of his franchise. Snyder tried to trade Campbell this offseason, and he has the money to pay Sanchez top-10, or even top-five money.

The difference between the Nos. 8 and 13 selections is 250 points. The Redskins have the 80th pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, which is worth 190 points, so they'd have to give up more. Not that doing so means much to Snyder; I suspect he'd be happy enough to relinquish next year's third-rounder as well.

As a football decision this makes no sense; by the time Sanchez is ready to take over as the starter, Chris Samuels, Santana Moss, Clinton Portis, Albert Haynesworth and Andre Carter will be past their primes. But how common is it that Snyder makes an intelligent football decision?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by The Goat

This is from WalterFootball.com, discussing a scenario where we trade up to 8 for Sanchez. I tend to see it this way:

Redskins Trade Up for Mark Sanchez: Daniel Snyder is a smart businessman, but he's proven that he has absolutely no clue when it comes to football decisions. Though he traded up for Jason Campbell and never provided the Auburn product with a consistent playbook, Snyder now wants Mark Sanchez to be the face of his franchise. Snyder tried to trade Campbell this offseason, and he has the money to pay Sanchez top-10, or even top-five money.

The difference between the Nos. 8 and 13 selections is 250 points. The Redskins have the 80th pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, which is worth 190 points, so they'd have to give up more. Not that doing so means much to Snyder; I suspect he'd be happy enough to relinquish next year's third-rounder as well.

As a football decision this makes no sense; by the time Sanchez is ready to take over as the starter, Chris Samuels, Santana Moss, Clinton Portis, Albert Haynesworth and Andre Carter will be past their primes. But how common is it that Snyder makes an intelligent football decision?

Noooooooo.....I can't listen to this speculation any more! Thank you for the story, Goat, but it is like Chinese water torture - drip, drip drip...

Personally I am adopting the position that the Sanchez talk is a smokescreen and am going into denial until Saturday.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Noooooooo.....I can't listen to this speculation any more! Thank you for the story, Goat, but it is like Chinese water torture - drip, drip drip...

Personally I am adopting the position that the Sanchez talk is a smokescreen and am going into denial until Saturday.

Word...and to think we've got 5 more days of this. If this is a smokescreen to get us players we actually need who can actually start I'll sing the praises of the FO until ya'll get sick of me.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Word...and to think we've got 5 more days of this. If this is a smokescreen to get us players we actually need who can actually start I'll sing the praises of the FO until ya'll get sick of me.

Hey, I'm the over the top positive one here!! LOL.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Hey, I'm the over the top positive one here!! LOL.

Oops sorry Ruh, no intention to move into your territory

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Noooooooo.....I can't listen to this speculation any more! Thank you for the story, Goat, but it is like Chinese water torture - drip, drip drip...

Personally I am adopting the position that the Sanchez talk is a smokescreen and am going into denial until Saturday.

I hear ya Lotus. It's a leap of faith but probably the only way to cope these next few days.