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Old 03-22-2010, 03:06 PM   #1
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A very sober assessment of the current situation. Coming from David Frum, of all people. He's probably one of the more reasonable Republicans that, unfortunately, don't get enough air time.

It will be interesting to see Mitt Romney campaign against this, provided that he or Sarah Palin, will surely get the nomination. This plan really tracks the recommendation of some of the old school Republicans like Bob Dole, yet it's been characterized as a government takeover. Either way November will be very interesting.
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A very sober assessment of the current situation. Coming from David Frum, of all people. He's probably one of the more reasonable Republicans that, unfortunately, don't get enough air time.

It will be interesting to see Mitt Romney campaign against this, provided that he or Sarah Palin, will surely get the nomination. This plan really tracks the recommendation of some of the old school Republicans like Bob Dole, yet it's been characterized as a government takeover. Either way November will be very interesting.
When "we don't negotiate with terrorist (democrats)" attitude is so prevalent among so many conservatives I don't think there is any hope. Anywho, Frum is really on a tear today.
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Old 03-22-2010, 07:00 PM   #3
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When "we don't negotiate with terrorist (democrats)" attitude is so prevalent among so many conservatives I don't think there is any hope. Anywho, Frum is really on a tear today.
I was talking to a buddy, who is a conservative, and he's going on and on about how David Frum isn't a real conservative, Bush was RINO, and this and that. I'm like you idiot, if Republicans won't listen to this guy they don't stand a chance in 2012 to unseat Obama. Not that he has all the answers, but this healthcare plan is Romney writ large, as much as he hates to admit it. It is.
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I was talking to a buddy, who is a conservative, and he's going on and on about how David Frum isn't a real conservative, Bush was RINO, and this and that. I'm like you idiot, if Republicans won't listen to this guy they don't stand a chance in 2012 to unseat Obama. Not that he has all the answers, but this healthcare plan is Romney writ large, as much as he hates to admit it. It is.
LOL...I got the same exact buddy sitting a few cubical away. Poor guy was really upset today as if his team lost the Super Bowl or something and wouldn't hear any of Frum's articles. Is your buddy still enamored with Ronald "The Greatest Conservative Who Ever Lived" Reagan and the possibility of him rising from the grave like mine?

These guys have yet to figure out that 1) they're not in control, 2) Obama was more or less elected to do what he is doing, 3) Obama isn't as far left as they believe and is willing to work something out.

Oh well, they'll realize soon enough that Obama is a big mother f*cking deal. Hopefully after it's too late.
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Old 03-22-2010, 07:48 PM   #5
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LOL...I got the same exact buddy sitting a few cubical away. Poor guy was really upset today as if his team lost the Super Bowl or something and wouldn't hear any of Frum's articles. Is your buddy still enamored with Ronald "The Greatest Conservative Who Ever Lived" Reagan and the possibility of him rising from the grave like mine?

These guys have yet to figure out that 1) they're not in control, 2) Obama was more or less elected to do what he is doing, 3) Obama isn't as far left as they believe and is willing to work something out.

Oh well, they'll realize soon enough that Obama is a big mother f*cking deal. Hopefully after it's too late.
Damn, sounds like the same dude. But yeah, it's all about Ronald Reagan, which I can respect. But he governed during a very different era, and quite frankly, would have nothing to do with this bunch calling themselves Conservatives nowadays. He just wouldn't. Reagan wasn't an angry, vindictive man. I didn't agree with his policies (well I was too young to give a f*ck), but he didn't have this abrasive tone I see from some of our leaders today. On both sides of the aisle.

You're correct, he's not as left as they think but I hope they keep up the Socialist/Marxist campaign. It will only help that's for sure.
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LOL...I got the same exact buddy sitting a few cubical away. Poor guy was really upset today as if his team lost the Super Bowl or something and wouldn't hear any of Frum's articles. Is your buddy still enamored with Ronald "The Greatest Conservative Who Ever Lived" Reagan and the possibility of him rising from the grave like mine?

These guys have yet to figure out that 1) they're not in control, 2) Obama was more or less elected to do what he is doing, 3) Obama isn't as far left as they believe and is willing to work something out.

Oh well, they'll realize soon enough that Obama is a big mother f*cking deal. Hopefully after it's too late.


Will you look at that, Biden is on the same page...lol

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Old 03-22-2010, 06:28 PM   #7
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So is Rush leaving? We could only be so lucky.

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^ where is he going to go that doesn't offer universal health care?
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^ where is he going to go that doesn't offer universal health care?
Belgium? I know thats where Canadians go when they have to wait for operations.
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how does he know they want him?
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That fat f*ck isn't going anywhere...then again, he might be able to procure oxycodone and hydrocodone much easier elsewhere.
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I'm no Democrat, but Rush is such a blowhard. He's not going anywhere. He loves political controversy because it offers him the opportunity to further stir the pot with his rhetoric, and buzz creates more listeners. He's become a billionaire by doing so.

He's a guy who I wish would just go away.
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I'm no Democrat, but Rush is such a blowhard. He's not going anywhere. He loves political controversy because it offers him the opportunity to further stir the pot with his rhetoric, and buzz creates more listeners. He's become a billionaire by doing so.

He's a guy who I wish would just go away.
I hate to say this but I've enjoyed listening to him in the past if for nothing more then the fact that he talks crazy. I remember when I got my tonsils out and somehow ended up on an AM Radio kick that I would frequently listen to him, this lasted about a week or two. The most recent time came about two weekends ago when I was on a 3 hour road trip and got to listen to him for about 30 minutes before he went off the air.

Reminds me of the Dr. Nora episode on Frasier.

Kenny: Hey, Dr. Crane.

Frasier: Ah, Kenny, just the man I wanted to see.

Kenny: Dr. Nora — don't hit me! [laughs]

Frasier: I want to talk to you about Dr. Nora's show.

Kenny: Yeah, well, get in line. The switchboards were going nuts.

Frasier: I don't doubt it.

Kenny: They love you!

Frasier: Excuse me?!

Kenny: Well, except for the ones that hate you. But either way,
they're listening. So you consider that option picked up.


George: Ten seconds.

Nora: Thank you, Kenny. Now get out of my booth.

Kenny: [acting scared] Ooh! [then, obedient] Yes, ma'am.
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I hate to say this but I've enjoyed listening to him in the past if for nothing more then the fact that he talks crazy. I remember when I got my tonsils out and somehow ended up on an AM Radio kick that I would frequently listen to him, this lasted about a week or two. The most recent time came about two weekends ago when I was on a 3 hour road trip and got to listen to him for about 30 minutes before he went off the air.

Reminds me of the Dr. Nora episode on Frasier.

Kenny: Hey, Dr. Crane.

Frasier: Ah, Kenny, just the man I wanted to see.

Kenny: Dr. Nora — don't hit me! [laughs]

Frasier: I want to talk to you about Dr. Nora's show.

Kenny: Yeah, well, get in line. The switchboards were going nuts.

Frasier: I don't doubt it.

Kenny: They love you!

Frasier: Excuse me?!

Kenny: Well, except for the ones that hate you. But either way,
they're listening. So you consider that option picked up.


George: Ten seconds.

Nora: Thank you, Kenny. Now get out of my booth.

Kenny: [acting scared] Ooh! [then, obedient] Yes, ma'am.
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Old 03-22-2010, 11:47 PM   #15
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I heart your signature.
Lol, I heart it to. Not as fancy as Smootsmacks "avatar sigs" but at the same time just as vague.
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