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View Poll Results: Do you approve of the trade for Alex Smith?
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Old 02-12-2018, 11:01 AM   #1
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That pick was rough and still hard to swallow as fans, we don't make the playoffs often and we had a chance to go back 2 back that would have been huge for the team. He was awful in that game.
Agree. I think Cousins has a little bit of spaz in him. I think he has a tendency to get very nervous in big moments.

He's not typically good in Week 1 games - there's a lot of buildup to them of course and until he gets his feet wet his Week 1 games are usually a problem. And then in games where the stakes are high, like that Giants game, he forced himself into a bad and unnecessary decision.

I can see it on his face in those games. You can tell he's nervous. Maybe he gets better with that over time as he gains experience. But I think there's something in his personality - I think he just gets uptight in the big moments.

It might also stem from practicing too safely - Gruden might be onto something there. If you constantly check down to the safer play, even in practice, are you going to be ready to make the big, difficult play in a crunch moment?

If you go strictly by Cousins' numbers he's a top 5 QB, but all of these little things are reflective of why he's more like a 10-15 type QB. He's not going to put a team on his back and pull through in a huge moment. At least he hasn't shown that very often thus far.
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Old 02-12-2018, 11:13 AM   #2
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Agree. I think Cousins has a little bit of spaz in him. I think he has a tendency to get very nervous in big moments.

He's not typically good in Week 1 games - there's a lot of buildup to them of course and until he gets his feet wet his Week 1 games are usually a problem. And then in games where the stakes are high, like that Giants game, he forced himself into a bad and unnecessary decision.

I can see it on his face in those games. You can tell he's nervous. Maybe he gets better with that over time as he gains experience. But I think there's something in his personality - I think he just gets uptight in the big moments.

It might also stem from practicing too safely - Gruden might be onto something there. If you constantly check down to the safer play, even in practice, are you going to be ready to make the big, difficult play in a crunch moment?

If you go strictly by Cousins' numbers he's a top 5 QB, but all of these little things are reflective of why he's more like a 10-15 type QB. He's not going to put a team on his back and pull through in a huge moment. At least he hasn't shown that very often thus far.
He's great week 2 - 14 ish, then for some reason the last few weeks he isn't that great, esp against the Giants, he is god awful vs them.
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Old 02-12-2018, 11:21 AM   #3
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Agree. I think Cousins has a little bit of spaz in him. I think he has a tendency to get very nervous in big moments.

He's not typically good in Week 1 games - there's a lot of buildup to them of course and until he gets his feet wet his Week 1 games are usually a problem. And then in games where the stakes are high, like that Giants game, he forced himself into a bad and unnecessary decision.

I can see it on his face in those games. You can tell he's nervous. Maybe he gets better with that over time as he gains experience. But I think there's something in his personality - I think he just gets uptight in the big moments.

It might also stem from practicing too safely - Gruden might be onto something there. If you constantly check down to the safer play, even in practice, are you going to be ready to make the big, difficult play in a crunch moment?

If you go strictly by Cousins' numbers he's a top 5 QB, but all of these little things are reflective of why he's more like a 10-15 type QB. He's not going to put a team on his back and pull through in a huge moment. At least he hasn't shown that very often thus far.
I'm 100% in line with this and have felt this way for a few years. This is really what drives my non-desire to pay him all that money just because of continuity and the market driving his price up.
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Old 02-12-2018, 12:57 PM   #4
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How can an NFC East team pay their QB 30 millionish if he can't beat the Cowboys or Giants?

Moving on was the right decision.
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Old 02-11-2018, 05:36 PM   #5
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A lot can happen between now and the official time that Alex Smith signs. If Cousins gets tagged again, there's a chance, however small, that the redskins go back to KC and tell them that the deal is off. There is also the chance the Allen tags Cousins with the exclusive tag, just to spite him and keep him from getting to be free, and choosing to keep Cousins on the bench while playing Smith. But some say that move could have the Redskins face lawsuits / backlash from the NFLPA, that states the franchise tag is meant to be used by teams hoping to reach a long term deal, and not to punish / spite a player. As crazy as all of those scenarios happen, you have to remember who owns the team, and who is running things, which means that they shouldn't sound that crazy at all.
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Old 02-11-2018, 05:48 PM   #6
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A lot can happen between now and the official time that Alex Smith signs. If Cousins gets tagged again, there's a chance, however small, that the redskins go back to KC and tell them that the deal is off. There is also the chance the Allen tags Cousins with the exclusive tag, just to spite him and keep him from getting to be free, and choosing to keep Cousins on the bench while playing Smith. But some say that move could have the Redskins face lawsuits / backlash from the NFLPA, that states the franchise tag is meant to be used by teams hoping to reach a long term deal, and not to punish / spite a player. As crazy as all of those scenarios happen, you have to remember who owns the team, and who is running things, which means that they shouldn't sound that crazy at all.
Keeping both just isn't happening. 20M + 34M for one position?

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Old 02-11-2018, 06:31 PM   #7
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Old 02-12-2018, 01:13 PM   #8
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Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith

Alex Smith might not be an upgrade over Kirk Cousins, but he will help Redskins - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN

This a good write up, I agree with most statements
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Old 02-12-2018, 04:50 PM   #9
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I waited until now to vote. I hit yes I do approve of the trade. We got a fair comparison in QB play to Cousins without having the break the bank. Signing Cousins to a mega contract would have been a huge mistake in my opinion. I do not think Cousins is worth 28-31mil/yr. Not even close.
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Old 02-13-2018, 07:42 AM   #10
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It's water under the bridge at this point. I was listening to 106.7 yesterday and Smith said that "he's jacked to be here." To me that was very refreshing to hear. We finally have a guy who wants to play here.
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Old 02-13-2018, 07:45 AM   #11
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I’m so exhausted by this blame game people want to play. Shit didn’t work out, both sides have to share some blame. Time to move on. Smith is our QB.
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I’m so exhausted by this blame game people want to play. Shit didn’t work out, both sides have to share some blame. Time to move on. Smith is our QB.
Yop, so what about this Cooley Film Breakdown of our new QB Alex Smith ?!

http://cdn.stationcaster.com/station...1518451131.mp3

Long story short:

-Negatives: less good of a pocket passer than Kirk, tends to escape the pocket early... but does so trying to take shots down the field. Also less effective than Kirk in the medium range passing game.

-Positives: very effective in the short AND long passing game. Very accurate down the field. Likes to take shots on 50/50 balls. Better athlete than Kirk.

And most of all: DOESN'T THROW PICKS!
He had 5 picks all year, none of them in the redzone. Cooley broke them all down: 1 tipped ball, 2 do or die throws that he forced (on 4th down and late in a game when it was their last chance) and 2 bad throws.

If we can adjust our offense to Alex's strengths, we'll be juuust fine!
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Old 02-13-2018, 05:48 PM   #13
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I’m so exhausted by this blame game people want to play. Shit didn’t work out, both sides have to share some blame. Time to move on. Smith is our QB.
Can the FO be blamed for offering Kirk what they thought he was worth?

One of the old complaints about Snyder during the Vinny years was he was a fan boy and over paid for players.

If Allen is listening to his football people and then he is setting ceilings for resignings and FAs which means getting players who want to be in Washington to win and not just get paid.

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On to Smith, was Scot with the niners when he was drafted? I thought Scot was the one that selected him right?
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On to Smith, was Scot with the niners when he was drafted? I thought Scot was the one that selected him right?

Yes Smith is a McC guy
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