The Haskins Threat

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

too early imo.



3 years form now, Terry may be the only guy on the team or Haskins/Sweat are both busts playing back up roles (2 1st R and 2nd R = not contributing)

Really? McLaurin may hit 1000 yds in his first season. Usually it takes WR a season or two or three to get in stride. Some never get it - like Doctson. If he had a better QB situation he would have been in the Rookie-of-the-Year territory. McLaurin will be our #1 WR for a decade.

Holcomb - he could be elite DB. Already, he’s very good, even with a very poor DC.

Steve Sims and Harmon -still too soon for a long-term prediction. But they’re decent WR rookies now. Sims is already a good KR special teams guy.

Haskins /Sweat - decent rookie seasons. Haskins has a 121 QB rating in his sixth game. That’s encouraging. Sweat has been slightly discouraging but the whole defense is handicapped by poor coaching.

Martin - OL, he had a decent first game. We’ll have to see how he does after the next 2 games.

This is a very good rookie class. This is encouraging because the Redskins have not had a good drafting ability in a long time. We’ve had two good drafting seasons in a row. This is because of Kyle Smith - I hope he is promoted to GM.













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[Warthog]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Haskins was a DS pick, it helps our situation if he makes himself attractive to coaches because it reduces a major source of conflict with our dysfunctional owner. At this point it seems clear BA will not be outright fired so we need as much positive as possible to get a decent coaching staff in place.

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The guy has played just in 6 games and you're ready to give up on him? He has a 121 QB rating in his sixth game and you think he's terrible? It is very RARE for a top QB to have a good or even a very good rookie season. Look at HOF QB like Peyton Manning - 26 INT his rookie year. Steve Young had 3 TD and 8 INT his first season. It goes on and on.

You've got to give a high draft pick players 2-3 years to see if they can become a franchise player. NOT like Doctson, who the Redskins kept around for over 4 seasons - he was just a poor WR. Only an awful GM like BA would keep a loser like Doctson around while letting 1000 yd WR like Garcon, Jackson and Crowder walk out the door.

I don't know if Haskins is the one. Time will tell, but the team needs to provide him with play time, reps, an improved OL, good coaching, far better play-calling, and a decent TE. Only AFTER the team helps him out with the improvements listed above and he's had 20-30 games, can the coaches make an evaluation of whther he is the future QB for this team. It's too soon now, even with his current faults.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by Warthog

You've got to give a high draft pick players 2-3 years to see if they can become a franchise player.

No you don't.

The best team in the league cuts and trades their drafted players all the time and they start UDFA all the time. Even there, there are politics involved, see the Jimmy G trade, but it's the closest thing there is in the league to a pure meritocracy, at least from the outside looking in.

What if the "high draft pick" should have been a "low draft pick"? Still 2-3 years?

Jay, KOC, Cavanaugh, all worked with Kirk, Alex, Colt, Case, and now Dwyane. You don't think there is a good feel for his ceiling outside DS and BA's office?

[skinsfaninok]

The first pass of the game he fit it in a tight window to Terry, after that he was confident u could tell from the film.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

The first pass of the game he fit it in a tight window to Terry, after that he was confident u could tell from the film.

He's one of those guys you want to get into a rhythm early, once he gets some confidence going it just snowballs for him.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

He's one of those guys you want to get into a rhythm early, once he gets some confidence going it just snowballs for him.

Yeah lets give him time , I believe he'll be the guy we want

[skinsfaninok]

Terry is the real deal because he has the speed and quickness to get open, also has great hands.. He's about as sure as it gets IMO

[skinsfaninok]

Before the draft Haskins was compared to Jameis and after this rookie season so far I actually see that.. Both are Big guys, Huge arms , can move better than they look and can fir it in tight windows.

[skinsfan69]

Solid draft class so far. Need to take the next step next year. There's a lot of good young pieces here.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Solid draft class so far. Need to take the next step next year. There's a lot of good young pieces here.

We're close. We're close

[SunnySide]

"I throw up watching that film," Haskins said on Wednesday, via NBC Sports Washington. "I don't like watching that tape. That's a totally different guy."

"It's just I'm a whole different player than I was back then, and that's just something that I feel watching that tape is not me and it wasn't me out there," Haskins said. "You want to look at it and be like, 'That's what I messed up on,' and move on from it. I don't mind watching it. I just prefer to watch something else."

Haskins' shoddy footwork remains an issue, as is his prosperity to walk into sacks, and he owns the lowest passer rating in the NFL among QBs with 150-plus attempts (70.2), but his big arm is NFL-caliber and as he gains rapport with receivers, the light has beginning to gradually fade on.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...hing-that-film

Perhaps Im being too nit picky with the young man but youve only started 6 games, this is your rookie year ... you havent proved anything. You are still that same player from 3 months ago. His thought that he has grown so much over 6 starts and doesnt have to study the film to learn from his mistakes is hubris and humorous to me. Hes placing himself ahead of where he really is on the learning curve. He shouldnt be running away from bad film but digesting it and breaking it down.

Seems like hed rather watch his good film and try and learn from that.

RG3 lite to me.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

"I throw up watching that film," Haskins said on Wednesday, via NBC Sports Washington. "I don't like watching that tape. That's a totally different guy."

"It's just I'm a whole different player than I was back then, and that's just something that I feel watching that tape is not me and it wasn't me out there," Haskins said. "You want to look at it and be like, 'That's what I messed up on,' and move on from it. I don't mind watching it. I just prefer to watch something else."

Haskins' shoddy footwork remains an issue, as is his prosperity to walk into sacks, and he owns the lowest passer rating in the NFL among QBs with 150-plus attempts (70.2), but his big arm is NFL-caliber and as he gains rapport with receivers, the light has beginning to gradually fade on.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...hing-that-film

Perhaps Im being too nit picky with the young man but youve only started 6 games, this is your rookie year ... you havent proved anything. You are still that same player from 3 months ago. His thought that he has grown so much over 6 starts and doesnt have to study the film to learn from his mistakes is hubris and humorous to me. Hes placing himself ahead of where he really is on the learning curve. He shouldnt be running away from bad film but digesting it and breaking it down.

Seems like hed rather watch his good film and try and learn from that.

RG3 lite to me.

Your link turned into an ad for NFL Game Pass for me. From what you quoted Haskins as saying I just see it as him finding the game film embarrassing, nothing more, nothing less.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

"I throw up watching that film," Haskins said on Wednesday, via NBC Sports Washington. "I don't like watching that tape. That's a totally different guy."

"It's just I'm a whole different player than I was back then, and that's just something that I feel watching that tape is not me and it wasn't me out there," Haskins said. "You want to look at it and be like, 'That's what I messed up on,' and move on from it. I don't mind watching it. I just prefer to watch something else."

Haskins' shoddy footwork remains an issue, as is his prosperity to walk into sacks, and he owns the lowest passer rating in the NFL among QBs with 150-plus attempts (70.2), but his big arm is NFL-caliber and as he gains rapport with receivers, the light has beginning to gradually fade on.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...hing-that-film

Perhaps Im being too nit picky with the young man but youve only started 6 games, this is your rookie year ... you havent proved anything. You are still that same player from 3 months ago. His thought that he has grown so much over 6 starts and doesnt have to study the film to learn from his mistakes is hubris and humorous to me. Hes placing himself ahead of where he really is on the learning curve. He shouldnt be running away from bad film but digesting it and breaking it down.

Seems like hed rather watch his good film and try and learn from that.

RG3 lite to me.

Idk, his first two games where he filled in he looked like a deer in the headlights. Up until last week he was taking multiple unnecessary sacks too. His only sack last week came on the last play of the game (which barring a miracle, was unlikely to work anyways). Not to mention, the first half of the game he was getting the ball out quick and being mostly accurate with his throws. So I kinda agree with him, the improvement between last week and his first two games has been very noticeable. How is harping on his first two starts going to help him become a better qb? His last 2-4 starts are going to be more accurate indicators of where his progression is, vs. his first two games.

[skinsfan69]

These last two games are big for DH. Let's hope the upward trend continues. That is all we can hope for right now.

[MTK]

Man, Haskins gets grilled for just about anything he says or does, it’s really ridiculous


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