Redskins vs Bucs GameDay Thread

[celts32]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Totally disagree, OTM. First of all, if the Bucs didn't have a bad case of Carlos Rogers, the Redskins would have gotten hammered today! Hammered.

I am so god damned tired of some of you guys talking about patience, when this clown coaching us this year is no better than the clown we had last year. I'm sorry, but at $7 million per year Mike Shanahan is the most overrated over paid, over hyped coach in the NFL this year. It's one thing to be wildly optimistic tempered with some patience, it's another to have glaring deficiencies and flaws week in and week out. That's not a patience issue, that's a competence issue.

The personnel decisions have been questionable, the play calling and clock management has been suspect, and Shanny continues to feed us BS at every presser. I'm just not convinced that the talent level between mos NFL rosters, ours included, is that great.

It's year 1 dude. Shanny is not responsible for the previous 20 years that have you and much of the fan base boiling over. He has been here for 13 games which for the most part he is playing with players he didn't select. How can we all criticise Snyder so much and then act just like we all accused him of acting?

[skinsfaninok]

JC has had a couple really good games this yr folks

[tc2deuce]

please name one coach who was fired/ stayed out a year/ took over a new team and got to the playoffs the first year as HC!?

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by tc2deuce

please name one coach who was fired/ stayed out a year/ took over a new team and got to the playoffs the first year as HC!?

We're just asking them to play good fundamental football and "gel" as the season progresses. They have done neither. This team has not "gelled" and actually seems more disjointed now than they were earlier in the season.

[SmootSmack]

And so begin the Gruden rumors...

[tc2deuce]

our team was a mess last year and shanny has to play with these bums...like D.HAll said.."we do not have the personnel"
with the team we have we beat 3 potential playoff teams.
I am pissed...trust me!
but I just look at the roster and all the changes done since last season and say that 5-8 makes sense. I am with you when it comes to the OC....when you have your RB run for 174 you better open up the passing attack and use what you have...cooley/davis!

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by tc2deuce

our team was a mess last year and shanny has to play with these bums...like D.HAll said.."we do not have the personnel"
with the team we have we beat 3 potential playoff teams.
I am pissed...trust me!
but I just look at the roster and all the changes done since last season and say that 5-8 makes sense. I am with you when it comes to the OC....when you have your RB run for 174 you better open up the passing attack and use what you have...cooley/davis!

The coaching staff decided to make the change to the 3-4, which we absolutely do not have the personnel to run. Had we stayed in a 4-3 our D would likely be improved, not regressed.

The Zone blocking run scheme, KS's questionable playcalling, the personnel decisions on the OL, the mis-use (non-use) of creative 2TE sets, the list goes on. These are strictly coaching issues.

What great personnel decisions have been made? J. Brown has been inconsistent (to put it kindly), Rabach is still our strating C, I find it hard to believe Dock (our most consistent lineman last year) suddenly sucks and is demoted. Kemo? Carriker? These are all stop-gap measures....and in the meantime we've traded away 3rd - 4th rounders for 2011. We've found a couple of RBs, but outside of that I think we have more needs going into this off-season than we had last year.

and Hall makes some plays but also has his share of liabilities.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

The coaching staff decided to make the change to the 3-4, which we absolutely do not have the personnel to run. Had we stayed in a 4-3 our D would likely be improved, not regressed.

The Zone blocking run scheme, KS's questionable playcalling, the personnel decisions on the OL, the mis-use (non-use) of creative 2TE sets, the list goes on. These are strictly coaching issues.

What great personnel decisions have been made? J. Brown has been inconsistent (to put it kindly), Rabach is still our strating C, I find it hard to believe Dock (our most consistent lineman last year) suddenly sucks and is demoted. Kemo? Carriker? These are all stop-gap measures....and in the meantime we've traded away 3rd - 4th rounders for 2011. We've found a couple of RBs, but outside of that I think we have more needs going into this off-season than we had last year.

and Hall makes some plays but also has his share of liabilities.

very true, sometimes it's said to be a skins fan. this year has been really hard, this is the first time i have ever missed a home game in atleast 7 years and i missed two, we lost both(colts and bucs). and i didn't even watch a minute of the lions game(out of the country). it's a season like this that makes you evaluate how you spend you sundays and your extra cash. i love the skins and alwasy will, but until the team starts showing alot more signs of progress i will continue to be less and less vested in each game. i know we will get better eventually it's just said that this franchise has such a hard fall from the top, or not even the top but relevance in the nfl year in and year out. hopefully the shanahan's are the right ones for the job, i feel very comfortable with bruce allen as the gm and think he will be a great fixture for this team, i just don't think the shanahans will pan out, but i really hope i am wrong. only time will tell.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

very true, sometimes it's said to be a skins fan. this year has been really hard, this is the first time i have ever missed a home game in atleast 7 years and i missed two, we lost both(colts and bucs). and i didn't even watch a minute of the lions game(out of the country). it's a season like this that makes you evaluate how you spend you sundays and your extra cash. i love the skins and alwasy will, but until the team starts showing alot more signs of progress i will continue to be less and less vested in each game. i know we will get better eventually it's just said that this franchise has such a hard fall from the top, or not even the top but relevance in the nfl year in and year out. hopefully the shanahan's are the right ones for the job, i feel very comfortable with bruce allen as the gm and think he will be a great fixture for this team, i just don't think the shanahans will pan out, but i really hope i am wrong. only time will tell.

It pains me to say it, but I agree with you. It is beyond dissapointing that we've got the #2 revenue in the NFL and can't put a winning team on the field.

[over the mountain]

earlier in the season we wouldnt have been able to have a successful 2 min drill touchdown. i cant remember the last time we had a 2 min drill td to be honest.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

earlier in the season we wouldnt have been able to have a successful 2 min drill touchdown. i cant remember the last time we had a 2 min drill td to be honest.

So, just because we completed a two-minute drill, everything is excused? The two-minute drill is usually the QB alone calling the shots since there's no time for the HC to be picking plays and making the offense wait. Besides, Tampa is not exactly a world-beating defense and the Tampa 2 is usually soft against the short plays when it's late game because the aim of the defense is kill as much clock as possibly.

And good coaches manage the clock well. The end of the first half was a completely embarrassing sequence.

[4mrusmc]

I feel sorry for the season ticket holders, and the schmucks who go out and plop down stacks of hundred dollar bills to yell support, and cheer for these sorry sacks of shit football players. F this team!

[Chico23231]

Special teams today...2 missed field goals, 1 missed extra point, fumble on kickoff. Ouch, Danny Smith might have to go. Special teams cost us the game today folks. Plain and simple

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Special teams today...2 missed field goals, 1 missed extra point, fumble on kickoff. Ouch, Danny Smith might have to go. Special teams cost us the game today folks. Plain and simple

How about the offense not getting the ball in the endzone? How about all of the 3 & outs in the second half?

Also, did anybody else notice the furious intensity with which the offense was able to execute the 2 minute drill? Why can't they match that intensity earlier, say, in the 3rd quarter, or -- all game long like other teams? Why not just out of the blue in the middle of the game run the no-huddle?

[tc2deuce]

let Bruce Allen work he has only been our GM for less than one year!
Vinny was the idiot........Snyder needs to go but we can't fire the owner!