Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?

Dirtbag59 · 06-01-2011, 11:42 PM

You guys I reds the wrods but they're so blurry. Howe do I stop the blurry.

30gut · 06-02-2011, 02:20 AM

Here some throws that stood out to me from the Becks in the Cards preseason game:

@1:13 Arm strength throw, just talking skillset or physical ability not result; He over throws the double covered WR-but he uncorks a bomb from the 15 yd line to the opposing 32 yd line about a 63 yard throw in the air

@ 2:01 Climbs up in the pocket, then rips a 20 yard side arm pass on a line to Austin

@ 4:12 Nimble feet and quick execution on the bootleg, squares his shoulders and makes a good throw on the move to Austin

@ 6:00 Good velocity and accuracy on a quick 3-step slant to Devin Thomas

@ 6:56 From the hash to the sideline (in the air from the 27 yd line to the 44) not a long throw but good velocity

@ 7:11 Good touch on fade down (L) sideline

@ 7:26 Best throw of the day I thought-From the 18 yd line quick release/3/4 motin side arm fling on a rope on target to Austin down the hash to the 48; great throw (about a 30 yard throw in the air)

@ 7:40 ??? WTF Follows up a great throw with a terrible side arm throw off balance and off target

@ 8:00 Half-playaction fires a dart to Banks on the 12 yd square in/dig route

Well that what I saw-what did you guys see
Thoughts?

Monkeydad · 06-02-2011, 11:55 AM

Who's that #80? He was dropping everything.

NLC1054 · 06-02-2011, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Who's that #80? He was dropping everything.

Shay Hodge. Camp scrub.

MTK · 06-02-2011, 12:32 PM

Lots of people have been knocking the mysterious... - Burgundy Blog [On The Washington Redskins]

NLC1054 · 06-02-2011, 12:45 PM

I think a lot of the concerns about Beck's arm strength are unwarranted as is. Matt Schaub doesn't have the biggest arm and he operates that offense incredibly well. If he needs to push it down field he can, but the offense isn't as much about the big play as everyone thinks it is. It's more about precision and execution.

And there's some pretty good throws he made in preseason. He didn't complete the passes, but he showed that he had more than enough arm to make the big throws.

Dirtbag59 · 06-02-2011, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NLC1054

I think a lot of the concerns about Beck's arm strength are unwarranted as is. Matt Schaub doesn't have the biggest arm and he operates that offense incredibly well. If he needs to push it down field he can, but the offense isn't as much about the big play as everyone thinks it is. It's more about precision and execution.

And there's some pretty good throws he made in preseason. He didn't complete the passes, but he showed that he had more than enough arm to make the big throws.

I think the real test will be how he does in the red zone and I personally think that his quick release and anticipation will allow him to be an upgrade over all our previous and current options.

Thats part of the reason average armed QB's make it in the NFL, because once that field is only 20 or 30 yards long that huge arm won't mean anything without a quick release and anticipation, seeing as how every QB in the league can throw a 20 or 30 yard pass.

In reviewing the season I saw way to many red zone attempts come up short. Part of fixing that will be getting more out of the running game but the passing game will also need to play a part in getting points on the board.

30gut · 06-02-2011, 04:02 PM

I think Beck's lack of arm strength is more pereception then reality.

He had one of the strongest arms at the combine in his draft class as measured by radar gun, throwing the 20 yard comeback.
In reality the evidence kinda points to Beck having a strong arm/very strong arm then hit does to him having a weak arm/average arm.

JoeRedskin · 06-02-2011, 04:10 PM

I thought I remember something about Beck having a side arm delivery... is that right or does he have the standard delivery (can't access clips at work).

SmootSmack · 06-02-2011, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I thought I remember something about Beck having a side arm delivery... is that right or does he have the standard delivery (can't access clips at work).

It's a bit 3/4th

Dirtbag59 · 06-02-2011, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I thought I remember something about Beck having a side arm delivery... is that right or does he have the standard delivery (can't access clips at work).

I think he uses both but has a strong preference towards throwing side armed.

JoeRedskin · 06-02-2011, 04:34 PM

Gotcha, thanks.

MTK · 07-07-2011, 02:57 PM

Starting Beck is no 'tank' job for Redskins - NFC East Blog - ESPN

30gut · 07-07-2011, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Starting Beck is no 'tank' job for Redskins - NFC East Blog - ESPN

Check this one out:
Emerging NFL Talents: QB John Beck « The Rookie Scouting Portfolio

NM Redskin · 07-13-2011, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 30gut

Check this one out:
Emerging NFL Talents: QB John Beck « The Rookie Scouting Portfolio

Great find!

06-01-2011, 11:42 PM	#1
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06-02-2011, 02:20 AM	#2
30gut Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,323	Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck? Here some throws that stood out to me from the Becks in the Cards preseason game: @1:13 Arm strength throw, just talking skillset or physical ability not result; He over throws the double covered WR-but he uncorks a bomb from the 15 yd line to the opposing 32 yd line about a 63 yard throw in the air @ 2:01 Climbs up in the pocket, then rips a 20 yard side arm pass on a line to Austin @ 4:12 Nimble feet and quick execution on the bootleg, squares his shoulders and makes a good throw on the move to Austin @ 6:00 Good velocity and accuracy on a quick 3-step slant to Devin Thomas @ 6:56 From the hash to the sideline (in the air from the 27 yd line to the 44) not a long throw but good velocity @ 7:11 Good touch on fade down (L) sideline @ 7:26 Best throw of the day I thought-From the 18 yd line quick release/3/4 motin side arm fling on a rope on target to Austin down the hash to the 48; great throw (about a 30 yard throw in the air) @ 7:40 ??? WTF Follows up a great throw with a terrible side arm throw off balance and off target @ 8:00 Half-playaction fires a dart to Banks on the 12 yd square in/dig route Well that what I saw-what did you guys see Thoughts? Last edited by 30gut; 06-02-2011 at 12:10 PM.

06-02-2011, 11:55 AM	#3
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06-02-2011, 12:32 PM	#5
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06-02-2011, 12:45 PM	#6
NLC1054 Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 279	Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck? I think a lot of the concerns about Beck's arm strength are unwarranted as is. Matt Schaub doesn't have the biggest arm and he operates that offense incredibly well. If he needs to push it down field he can, but the offense isn't as much about the big play as everyone thinks it is. It's more about precision and execution. And there's some pretty good throws he made in preseason. He didn't complete the passes, but he showed that he had more than enough arm to make the big throws.

06-02-2011, 04:02 PM	#8
30gut Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,323	Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck? I think Beck's lack of arm strength is more pereception then reality. He had one of the strongest arms at the combine in his draft class as measured by radar gun, throwing the 20 yard comeback. In reality the evidence kinda points to Beck having a strong arm/very strong arm then hit does to him having a weak arm/average arm.

06-02-2011, 04:10 PM	#9
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 63 Posts: 10,401	Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck? I thought I remember something about Beck having a side arm delivery... is that right or does he have the standard delivery (can't access clips at work). __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

06-02-2011, 04:34 PM	#12
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 63 Posts: 10,401	Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck? Gotcha, thanks. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

07-07-2011, 02:57 PM	#13
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck? Starting Beck is no 'tank' job for Redskins - NFC East Blog - ESPN __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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