Update: McCain Selects Gov. Sarah Palin as Running Mate

[onlydarksets]

Anyone check out her email?
Palin's Yahoo Account Hacked, Contents Leaked - Yahoo! News

The personal e-mail account of Republican vice presidential hopeful Gov. Sarah Palin was hacked this week by an activist group known as 'anonymous', according to a Web site that publishes leaked documents alleging government and corporate misconduct.

Anonymous gained access to Palin's Yahoo e-mail address on Tuesday evening and gave the information to Wikileaks, according to the Web site. Data shared included screen shots of Palin's inbox, two e-mails, her address book and several family photos.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by onlydarksets

Anyone check out her email?
Palin's Yahoo Account Hacked, Contents Leaked - Yahoo! News

I hope the people who hacked her account go to jail and I think the people who run that site should also face charges. This has nothing to do with who's account was hacked and I say the same if it was Obama, Biden or anyone who had their account hacked into.

[onlydarksets]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I hope the people who hacked her account go to jail and I think the people who run that site should also face charges. This has nothing to do with who's account was hacked and I say the same if it was Obama, Biden or anyone who had their account hacked into.

I agree regarding the hackers. For wikileak, though, they've already beat a court rap once, since they only host the files. I haven't formed an opinion on how they should be treated.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by onlydarksets

I agree regarding the hackers. For wikileak, though, they've already beat a court rap once, since they only host the files. I haven't formed an opinion on how they should be treated.

I look at it as receiving and holding stolen property.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I look at it as receiving and holding stolen property.

I think the question becomes, "Who owns the property?" I wouldn't say it's Palin in this case, but probably Yahoo. Either way, it's probably theft. Problem is, they most likely won't catch the guys who did it.

[firstdown]

Oh, Biden says "Be Patriotic and Pay More Taxes". This is just what I have thought of them all along. They are going to use the economy as a reason to keep lowering the income range to tax more people. I can hear it now from Obama if elected. I know I said I would only raise taxes on a small % of wealthy people in the US but things are even worse than we thought. We are going to have and lower the income level to ? so we can help the people of this great nation. So up goes my taxes agian (I pay more than my share) and I'm guessing he would go to around $75,000 income.
Biden: Wealthy Americans Must Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism - America’s Election HQ

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Oh, Biden says "Be Patriotic and Pay More Taxes". This is just what I have thought of them all along. They are going to use the economy as a reason to keep lowering the income range to tax more people. I can hear it now from Obama if elected. I know I said I would only raise taxes on a small % of wealthy people in the US but things are even worse than we thought. We are going to have and lower the income level to ? so we can help the people of this great nation. So up goes my taxes agian (I pay more than my share) and I'm guessing he would go to around $75,000 income.
Biden: Wealthy Americans Must Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism - America’s Election HQ

The socialism isn't even subtle any more, it's in-your-face socialism.

The percentage of taxes paid already increases with income, in other words the wealthy are paying a higher percentage AND a higher dollar amount. What more do they want?

I fall squarely in the middle class and wouldn't be affected directly in the least bit by an increase in taxes on the wealthy, and I think it's the stupidest plan I've ever heard.

The wealthy are the people keeping this country running - they're paying more in taxes in a year than most of us gross in income. They're already paying for damn near the entire government, the government needs to stop wasting the money they have and stop trying to be everyone's mommy and daddy.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by mheisig

The socialism isn't even subtle any more, it's in-your-face socialism.

The percentage of taxes paid already increases with income, in other words the wealthy are paying a higher percentage AND a higher dollar amount. What more do they want?

I fall squarely in the middle class and wouldn't be affected directly in the least bit by an increase in taxes on the wealthy, and I think it's the stupidest plan I've ever heard.

The wealthy are the people keeping this country running - they're paying more in taxes in a year than most of us gross in income. They're already paying for damn near the entire government, the government needs to stop wasting the money they have and stop trying to be everyone's mommy and daddy.

Good post, agreed.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by mheisig

I fall squarely in the middle class and wouldn't be affected directly in the least bit by an increase in taxes on the wealthy, and I think it's the stupidest plan I've ever heard.

Actually, if you work for a wealthy person, you might be more affected than you think. Most of the people who work in this country work for small businesses. So if there are small business owners who are classified as "rich" or "wealthy" by the Dems, and a larger portion of their income is taken by the government in the form of tax increases, one of the first ways they will make up for that loss is by cutting labor costs.

For everyone out there who thinks tax increases for the rich are just fine and dandy, just wait until your pink slip arrives.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Actually, if you work for a wealthy person, you might be more affected than you think. Most of the people who work in this country work for small businesses. So if there are small business owners who are classified as "rich" or "wealthy" by the Dems, and a larger portion of their income is taken by the government in the form of tax increases, one of the first ways they will make up for that loss is by cutting labor costs.

For everyone out there who thinks tax increases for the rich are just fine and dandy, just wait until your pink slip arrives.

Excellent point.

Hacking away at the top level indiscriminately probably appeals to romantic notions of "taking on the man" and "fighting big business" without a realization of the trickle-down effect.

[saden1]

You mean this:



It's time to be patriotic? Help your fellow citizens? Help alleviate the financial troubles of your nation? Don't be the uninformed, unprincipled and useless Donald Trump? I would have went with "it's time to pay your share instead of gaming the system." As for you assertions that he's going to hike tax on those making 75K I say you have no basis whatsoever to come to such conclusion. Your gut feeling shouldn't supersede facts.

[mheisig]

Winston Churchill summarized Socialism pretty well:

"...a socialist policy is abhorrent to the British ideas of freedom. Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the object worship of the state. It will prescribe for every one where they are to work, what they are to work at, where they may go and what they may say. Socialism is an attack on the right to breathe freely. No socialist system can be established without a political police. They would have to fall back on some form of Gestapo, no doubt very humanely directed in the first instance."

Friedrich Hayek: A Biography

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Here's a question for you guys:

If Candidate A wants to raise taxes (on the rich), but will spend more frugally, and Candidate B wants to lower taxes (on the rich), but will spend more frivolously, who do you choose?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

Here's a question for you guys:

If Candidate A wants to raise taxes (on the rich), but will spend more frugally, and Candidate B wants to lower taxes (on the rich), but will spend more frivolously, who do you choose?

I know what you getting at but look up earmarks of the two running and see who wins hands down. OBAMA

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I know what you getting at but look up earmarks of the two running and see who wins hands down. OBAMA

I'm not "getting at" anything. I just thought it was an interesting question to ponder.