Kirk Cousins 24/7 thread

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

ESPN wanted to be cool and make their own QBR that nobody even really cares about. They go based off of many things not just passing stats.

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It is a way, WAY better metric than passer rating, which is an absolutely horrendous stat. If you go 4/4 for 65 yards on a drive in a one-score game in the 4th quarter, that gets you the same passer rating as if you go 4/4 for 65 yards in a drive during garbage time when you're down by 21 points in the fourth quarter.

I can fully and completely explain QBR to anybody interested, it definitely should be used instead of passer rating.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

It is a way, WAY better metric than passer rating, which is an absolutely horrendous stat. If you go 4/4 for 65 yards on a drive in a one-score game in the 4th quarter, that gets you the same passer rating as if you go 4/4 for 65 yards in a drive during garbage time when you're down by 21 points in the fourth quarter.

I can fully and completely explain QBR to anybody interested, it definitely should be used instead of passer rating.

I admit that I don't understand QBR. Nevertheless, rating Kirk as the 4th most productive QB seems too high to me under any valid system because we have not been a good Red Zone team and Kirk doesn't run very much.

[skinsfaninok]

Kirk still hasn't had a big TD game yet. It's coming, once we start scoring in the RZ again. I wouldn't be shocked to see a 4 or 5 td day in the next few weeks

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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Kirk still hasn't had a big TD game yet. It's coming, once we start scoring in the RZ again. I wouldn't be shocked to see a 4 or 5 td day in the next few weeks

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I'm expecting it this week! (think he's got a Play60 game going)

[Chico23231]

Cousins has played fine after the first 2 games of the season.

These last 8 will determine a lot....if we come out with a winning record, Cousins contract will be massive. Right now, 20 mil per is probably where the team is at....

[MTK]

Kirk is middle of the pack as far as ESPN's QBR goes, 14th currently.

[SolidSnake84]

Mike Jones from the Washington Post states that there are some within the redskins organization who still do not believe Cousins is the answer at QB, and are prepared to use "other options" regarding the QB next year:

Report: Some with Redskins not sold yet on Kirk Cousins as their long-term QB | CSN Mid-Atlantic

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Mike Jones from the Washington Post states that there are some within the redskins organization who still do not believe Cousins is the answer at QB, and are prepared to use "other options" regarding the QB next year:

Report: Some with Redskins not sold yet on Kirk Cousins as their long-term QB | CSN Mid-Atlantic

Damn dude, it's like they write these articles with you in mind. Idk how you manage to find these consistently stupid articles.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Mike Jones from the Washington Post states that there are some within the redskins organization who still do not believe Cousins is the answer at QB, and are prepared to use "other options" regarding the QB next year:

Report: Some with Redskins not sold yet on Kirk Cousins as their long-term QB | CSN Mid-Atlantic

Jones seems like he's pretty well connected. He's says that there " are some" that still don't think KC is the guy? Hmmm...my guess is this is Dan, Bruce or both. My question is why does a story like this come out mid season? He's getting this info from a source. When I hear shit like I just SMH. Why would someone say anything about KC in the middle of the season when you're trying to get into the playoffs? You would never hear this type of shit coming out of the Patriots camp. Ever.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Jones seems like he's pretty well connected. He's says that there " are some" that still don't think KC is the guy? Hmmm...my guess is this is Dan, Bruce or both. My question is why does a story like this come out mid season? He's getting this info from a source. When I hear shit like I just SMH. Why would someone say anything about KC in the middle of the season when you're trying to get into the playoffs? You would never hear this type of shit coming out of the Patriots camp. Ever.

My personal opinion has always been that it is Dan who is not the Cousins fan. To me, Bruce has always struck me as just a more rational extension of Dan, meaning that he does what the owner wants but tries to go about it as smartly and rational as possible. I have stated in the past that I feel his disdain towards Cousins is due more to the fact that "his" pick of QB (RG3) failed spectacularly in the NFL, and less to do with Kirk himself. This will be one of the main reasons IMO that Cousins will not be retained.

As far as who the source might be, my best guess is that it is a player, and not an actual team official. Let's try and remember who has been the most anti-Kirk player wise? DeSean Jackson is kind of the only one who springs to my mind. He knows he wont be here next year, so it could be him leaking to the media...just speculation...

[OmahaRedskins]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

My personal opinion has always been that it is Dan who is not the Cousins fan. To me, Bruce has always struck me as just a more rational extension of Dan, meaning that he does what the owner wants but tries to go about it as smartly and rational as possible. I have stated in the past that I feel his disdain towards Cousins is due more to the fact that "his" pick of QB (RG3) failed spectacularly in the NFL, and less to do with Kirk himself. This will be one of the main reasons IMO that Cousins will not be retained.

As far as who the source might be, my best guess is that it is a player, and not an actual team official. Let's try and remember who has been the most anti-Kirk player wise? DeSean Jackson is kind of the only one who springs to my mind. He knows he wont be here next year, so it could be him leaking to the media...just speculation...

I maybe naive, but I do not think it's Dan. Dan does not speak to the media and Mike Jones is a beat reporter. He does not have access to Dan. Tony Wiley would never let a beat reporter close to the owner.

If this report came from someone at ESPN, like Tony C or Wilbon, maybe I could see them having access to Dan.

Maybe Bruce or Scot M, but i don't see them doing it. It is the bye week, it could be a made up story to get clicks on the url.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by MTK

Kirk is middle of the pack as far as ESPN's QBR goes, 14th currently.

He is 7th in DYAR (overall value) and 9th in DVOA (value per play) over at FO:

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | QUARTERBACKS 2016

[skinsfan69]

I respect Casserly's opinion, he's a sharp guy. But after watching the two last week, KC was clearly the better QB. Plus Dalton has started a lot more games. I just wasn't all that impressed with him, he should have been picked off three times and had a terrible fumble at the end of the game. To me he's slightly below average.

[skinsfaninok]

If they let Kirk walk, its because they have another QB that they want in FA and I doubt that happens. Who will be available?? Kirk will be the guy

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

If they let Kirk walk, its because they have another QB that they want in FA and I doubt that happens. Who will be available?? Kirk will be the guy

Kirk has to be the guy. With a weak draft class available and the even-more-weak free agent class that turns out year after year we really have no choice. Give him 20 mil a year and call it a day. 20 mil seems high but relative to the percentage of the salary cap it will be manageable for us.