Redskins trade for Alex Smith

[FrenchSkin]

And in any case it's pretty clear the Chiefs were more interested in Fuller than anyone the Skins would have been willing to offer more easily.

[MTK]

The Chiefs definitely needed help in the secondary and Fuller is a up and coming young CB, seems natural they targeted him

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by MTK

The Chiefs definitely needed help in the secondary and Fuller is a up and coming young CB, seems natural they targeted him

Yep.
Maybe it sounded like I was questioning Fuller statement, I wasn't.
I was simply saying it's hard to know if it's 100% accurate since he's part of the story.

But my main point was the FO probably did what they had to do on this one. Some here thought trading Fuller was a huge mistake, all of us felt it was hard to see him go.
Knowing the Chiefs singled him out in the negotiating process makes it look better IMO.

[skinsfaninok]

Kirk's big weakness is when the pocket collapses he caves and eats the sack, Alex moves out of trouble and gets yards. That will be huge

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Kirk's big weakness is when the pocket collapses he caves and eats the sack, Alex moves out of trouble and gets yards. That will be huge

I am not sure I agree. Over the last three years AS has been sacked more times than KC despite KC have more pass attempts. KCs worst year in sack % is last year at 7.1% per dropback is still lower than AS career average of 7.8%. I cannot speak completely for the 49ers/Chiefs o-line for his career or the chiefs for the last three years. I do not the skins pass pro is pretty good so I do imagine that has something to do with it. I do like where it has headed the last two years with AS however. If he can keep it around 6% I would be happy.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I am not sure I agree. Over the last three years AS has been sacked more times than KC despite KC have more pass attempts. KCs worst year in sack % is last year at 7.1% per dropback is still lower than AS career average of 7.8%. I cannot speak completely for the 49ers/Chiefs o-line for his career or the chiefs for the last three years. I do not the skins pass pro is pretty good so I do imagine that has something to do with it. I do like where it has headed the last two years with AS however. If he can keep it around 6% I would be happy.

Kirk also didnt play von Miller twice alot of these years lol, ok.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Meks

Kirk also didnt play von Miller twice alot of these years lol, ok.

KC all so didn't have Andy Reid as a coach,pretty sure he help Smith be a better QB. Gruden is a good coach but Reid is a better coach.

[Dan73]

It will be refreshing to cheer for a guy who wants to win and is in it for the team.

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[skinsfaninok]

In the last 7 years Alex Smith is 69-31 as a starter, Lets see if Kirk will do that after he has started for 7 total years. I doubt it. The guy is a WINNER not a STAT guy

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

In the last 7 years Alex Smith is 69-31 as a starter, Lets see if Kirk will do that after he has started for 7 total years. I doubt it. The guy is a WINNER not a STAT guy

Did Alex do this in spite of the rest of the roster, or because of the rest of the roster? W-L has always been overrated, it takes 45 good efforts to earn a W on game day.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by mooby

Did Alex do this in spite of the rest of the roster, or because of the rest of the roster? W-L has always been overrated, it takes 45 good efforts to earn a W on game day.

Sometimes the QB has to make the plays late in games to get the W, that is why the QB is such a coveted POS, Smith made those plays against us on MNF and he also made them against the Eagles early on in the season. Yeah u have to have help but Kirk had as much help as anyone in 2016, HE HAD to make a play and HE COULDN'T do it. Stats don't always show it all

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Sometimes the QB has to make the plays late in games to get the W, that is why the QB is such a coveted POS, Smith made those plays against us on MNF and he also made them against the Eagles early on in the season. Yeah u have to have help but Kirk had as much help as anyone in 2016, HE HAD to make a play and HE COULDN'T do it. Stats don't always show it all

Counterpoint, Kirk led us to the greatest comeback in Redskins history in 2015 against the Bucs. Down 24-3 before the half, not only did he methodically erase the deficit, he led us to the game winning touchdown with one last drive under 2 minutes in the fourth quarter. That was 1 of his 10+ game winning drives in the last few minutes of the 4th quarter or OT. So you can have your "didn't get it done in the final game of the season" and I'll take the overall body of work.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by mooby

Counterpoint, Kirk led us to the greatest comeback in Redskins history in 2015 against the Bucs. Down 24-3 before the half, not only did he methodically erase the deficit, he led us to the game winning touchdown with one last drive under 2 minutes in the fourth quarter. That was 1 of his 10+ game winning drives in the last few minutes of the 4th quarter or OT. So you can have your "didn't get it done in the final game of the season" and I'll take the overall body of work.

Alex has the body of work, he has playoff wins.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Sometimes the QB has to make the plays late in games to get the W, that is why the QB is such a coveted POS, Smith made those plays against us on MNF and he also made them against the Eagles early on in the season. Yeah u have to have help but Kirk had as much help as anyone in 2016, HE HAD to make a play and HE COULDN'T do it. Stats don't always show it all

Our D gave away several games in 2016. You might be cherry picking just a little.

If I was going to cherry pick in favor of Kirk, how about the throw against all out blitz to Doctson in Seattle this year. He had to make a play and absolutely came through.

I get what your saying and agree that Smith is probably better off schedule, he has way more game and situational experience as well. I disagree in that I don't think it is that black and white.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Our D gave away several games in 2016. You might be cherry picking just a little.

If I was going to cherry pick in favor of Kirk, how about the throw against all out blitz to Doctson in Seattle this year. He had to make a play and absolutely came through.

I get what your saying and agree that Smith is probably better off schedule, he has way more game and situational experience as well. I disagree in that I don't think it is that black and white.

The Seattle game was a great performance by Kirk without numbers, he was clutch. He's a good QB but he often seems lost back there and just takes the sacks.