Official Redskins Free Agency Thread 2013 Part II

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Which time?
Which game?

Both times

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Both times

I wouldn't call those scrambles necessarily.
It was a designed run all right.
Designed by RGII at the last second.
He needs to learn to slide and protect himself.
Hes not Christian Okoye.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

I wouldn't call those scrambles necessarily.
It was a designed run all right.
Designed by RGII at the last second.
He needs to learn to slide and protect himself.
Hes not Christian Okoye.

What is your definition of a scramble then?

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

I wouldn't call those scrambles necessarily.
It was a designed run all right.
Designed by RGII at the last second.
He needs to learn to slide and protect himself.
Hes not Christian Okoye.

Are you being serious or sarcastic? I truly hope sarcastic because if not then it clearly means you know about as much about football as my ironing board.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

I wouldn't call those scrambles necessarily.
It was a designed run all right.
Designed by RGII at the last second.
He needs to learn to slide and protect himself.
Hes not Christian Okoye.

Huh? There's no in between, it's either a designed run or a scramble.

[The Goat]

RG also took brutal, brutal hits in the pocket. More often on drop backs than any other QB per some sources. What's the difference? None, absolutely none.

QBs with shit lines get killed. Just like running QBs get killed. Picking out plays here and there to somehow disregard those two basic realities...are like staring at a single tree in the middle of the forest.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by The Goat

RG also took brutal, brutal hits in the pocket. More often on drop backs than any other QB per some sources. What's the difference? None, absolutely none.

QBs with shit lines get killed. Just like running QBs get killed. Picking out plays here and there to somehow disregard those two basic realities...are like staring at a single tree in the middle of the forest.

There is a difference.
How many QBs get knee tears and concussions in the pocket.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

There is a difference.
How many QBs get knee tears and concussions in the pocket.

Tom Brady tore his knee. Carson Palmer tore his arm and his knee, Big Ben hurt his shoulder, Peyton manning needed 4 neck surgeries, thiesman broke his leg in the pocket... People get injured in the pocket. Elway, young and Rodgers scramble a lot and never really got hurt (young did toward the end though). I do think RG3 will be a great pocket passer in due time. Saw it at Baylor with an average college Oline and I do believe that RG3 will develop into a faster Aaron Rodgers

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Tom Brady tore his knee. Carson Palmer tore his arm and his knee, Big Ben hurt his shoulder, Peyton manning needed 4 neck surgeries, thiesman broke his leg in the pocket... People get injured in the pocket. Elway, young and Rodgers scramble a lot and never really got hurt (young did toward the end though). I do think RG3 will be a great pocket passer in due time. Saw it at Baylor with an average college Oline and I do believe that RG3 will develop into a faster Aaron Rodgers

This! Best case scenario IMO.

[CRedskinsRule]

It depends. My point is that a well executed zone-read/stretch run operated from the pistol gives the best protection and utilizes Griffins skills the most. It protects him from pocket collapsing crunch hits, and, if he uses good sideline awareness, protects him from harsh hits that a true running qb ala Vick can take. Certainly our line isn't going to be a line that would protect a non-mobile qb, but that's not the type of offense we are building anyways. Our qb will always have to have some level of mobility, even if it's not Griffinesque.

[RGIII]

I have to go back and watch the snaps Cousins took. I remember he had a clutch performance relieving am injured RG3 but, he did not show the same magic against SEA. Let's keep his limited play in perspective. And yes, Pat White hasn't showed or flashed potential to be a NFL QB.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by RGIII

I have to go back and watch the snaps Cousins took. I remember he had a clutch performance relieving am injured RG3 but, he did not show the same magic against SEA. Let's keep his limited play in perspective. And yes, Pat White hasn't showed or flashed potential to be a NFL QB.

Cousins struggled against ATL, too.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

I am willing to give the guy a pass on both games. They were both firsts. Cousins was great against the Ravens in his second go round. Started off shaking against the Browns and found his rhythm at the end of the first quarter and kept it going till the final whistle.

Then you have the pressure cooker that was the playoff game, once again another first for the rookie. The line at that point was getting beat almost every play, and when he went into the game their defense was clicking and extemely aggressive working with a ten point lead against an offense they had beaten for 2 1/2 quarters.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by RGIII

I have to go back and watch the snaps Cousins took. I remember he had a clutch performance relieving am injured RG3 but, he did not show the same magic against SEA. Let's keep his limited play in perspective. And yes, Pat White hasn't showed or flashed potential to be a NFL QB.

He lit up.Cleveland

[Alvin Walton]

26-of-37 for 329 yards and two TDs.

Not too shabby.