Trent Williams holding out for new deal

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Wow... on Sheehan's radio show , Adam Schefter, who reported the Skins were turning down every trade offers they received for TW, made 2 very interesting points:

1) Teams are not trading players... until they do. Reminded us the Raiders were not trading Khalil Mack... until they received an offer they couldn't refuse.

2) In 1995, the Broncos traded holding out Pro Bowl LT Gary Zimmerman to the Vikings for a 1st, a 2nd and a 6th ! He said the situation is virtually identical, so that'd be the baseline, and anything less than a 1st would be ridiculous.

Zimmerman had a streak of not missing a game for 5 straight seasons before he was traded. Trent plays 75% of the time these days, huge difference. Zimmerman played 5 more years for the Vikings, nobody would project that out of Trent.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Zimmerman had a streak of not missing a game for 5 straight seasons before he was traded. Trent plays 75% of the time these days, huge difference. Zimmerman played 5 more years for the Vikings, nobody would project that out of Trent.

Thanks for these precisions, I was 5 back then so didn't know much more than what Sheehan and Schefter said about it.
Good point, but I still think anything less than a 1st would be 100% unacceptable.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Zimmerman had a streak of not missing a game for 5 straight seasons before he was traded. Trent plays 75% of the time these days, huge difference. Zimmerman played 5 more years for the Vikings, nobody would project that out of Trent.

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Thanks for these precisions, I was 5 back then so didn't know much more than what Sheehan and Schefter said about it.
Good point, but I still think anything less than a 1st would be 100% unacceptable.

I was 35 back then and have collected a lot of concussions and don't sleep well, so I often double check my memory with Pro Football Reference. I know Trent's history with missing games. I just remember Zimmerman as a perennial Pro Bowler and iron man type that did not miss games and had a long career. I got the exact info by looking it up.

[Schneed10]

The Skins continue to hold $21M of leverage over Trent and there are reportedly three teams interested in trading for him, so they hold leverage in the trade market, too. They should be patient and let things come to them. We'll get close to Week 1 and either Trent will show up, or they'll get a strong trade offer.

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

The Skins continue to hold $21M of leverage over Trent and there are reportedly three teams interested in trading for him, so they hold leverage in the trade market, too. They should be patient and let things come to them. We'll get close to Week 1 and either Trent will show up, or they'll get a strong trade offer.

My concern is neither party will budge. Williams seems adamant about not playing for us anymore and the team seems adamant about not trading him. I don't trust Allen with a situation this tenuous. Just a poor distraction prior to the season starting, but it is what it is.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by The Skinsinator

My concern is neither party will budge. Williams seems adamant about not playing for us anymore and the team seems adamant about not trading him. I don't trust Allen with a situation this tenuous. Just a poor distraction prior to the season starting, but it is what it is.

The lack of faith in Allen is well placed. But I really do think this is a hard one to screw up. In a game of chicken, Allen is in a mack truck worth $21M and Trent's in a sedan.

In the trade market, there are three vultures competing over one body.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

The lack of faith in Allen is well placed. But I really do think this is a hard one to screw up. In a game of chicken, Allen is in a mack truck worth $21M and Trent's in a sedan.

In the trade market, there are three vultures competing over one body.

It's either Trent shows up week 1 or Trade him for a 1st or Elite player.

[WCommandersfan99]

New England is probably out predictably:

https://nesn.com/2019/08/trent-willi...e-star-tackle/

I think Houston is going to need to pony up the 1st rounder. Interested to see what Miami would offer or if any other teams have legitimate interest.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

The lack of faith in Allen is well placed. But I really do think this is a hard one to screw up. In a game of chicken, Allen is in a mack truck worth $21M and Trent's in a sedan.

In the trade market, there are three vultures competing over one body.

The fans have erected a 3 Ring tent, as Ringmaster Snyder laughs maniacally through the bullhorn while slipping another dollar into his pocket, while the fans eat soggy popcorn from their own tears.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

The Skins continue to hold $21M of leverage over Trent and there are reportedly three teams interested in trading for him, so they hold leverage in the trade market, too. They should be patient and let things come to them. We'll get close to Week 1 and either Trent will show up, or they'll get a strong trade offer.

Yeah, a lot of people are painting the Skins are losers in this story, but I actually think they're in a situation were it'll be hard to lose... now they've documented how capable of losing a winning situation they are, but still...

[skinsfaninok]

"Do I think if the Redskins ever were to deal Trent Williams they would get a 1 [first-round draft pick]? Absolutely," Schefter said on The Kevin Sheehan Show. "And you know what, by the way, I don' think they trade him for anything less than something like that ever. I mean, why would you? You're talking about a seven-time pro bowl left tackle, who's 31."

Anything less than a 1 is a HUGE FAILURE

[WCommandersfan99]

Sources around the league feel that it is inevitable that we trade him soon:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/while-r...025517109.html

Might as well trade him now to highest bidder after increasing demand. A haul really does seem possible.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by The Skinsinator

Sources around the league feel that it is inevitable that we trade him soon:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/while-r...025517109.html

Might as well trade him now to highest bidder after increasing demand. A haul really does seem possible.

No, I say wait, wait for offers to increase, wait for an injury on some other team to occur, wait for something you CAN NOT turn down.

[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

No, I say wait, wait for offers to increase, wait for an injury on some other team to occur, wait for something you CAN NOT turn down.

When I say now, I mean sometime in the next few weeks assuming offers do increase. Start the trade war. Think that's occurring actually. We need to take into account him missing a few games a year and coming off the health issue. I want maximum value, but also make sure it's still an attractive haul. Trading him right before the regular season to a team with Super Bowl aspirations (Houston, NE, etc) should pull in the best net. Also, not counting on NE to be the team with their perpetual shrewdness for situations like this.

Not good with Williams for Clowney. I want the 1st rd pick minimum.

[SFREDSKIN]

Wait till a contending team has a T get hurt, they’ll pay. If Houston gave a 3rd rounder for a RB (Duke Johnson) why can’t the skins get a 1st rounder or more.