Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by EdmundDorf

Sometimes you have to go backwards a little before you can go forward, like with Dunbar we are never going to get value for TW, a third this year and a 2/3 next if it is on the table will be it and will allow the team to move forward. Getting so little in return for these guys is going to make the path back to respectability a good bit longer

We've been going backwards since 1999, the year Dan took over.

[skinsfan69]

This entire thing makes me hate Bruce Allen even more.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

This entire thing makes me hate Bruce Allen even more.

Why is that? IMO this is the one thing that Bruce did right - he didn't back down or cave in to Trent's greedy demands. As far as I know, he was insisting on a first plus something (which was absolutely fair for a player with 2 years left on his deal), but no team came close to that. Although there were reports last year that teams were offering first rounders, Keim and others have reported that that wasnt true. Likely, these were false reports put out there by the team to drive up interest. But we never got a first round offer.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Why is that? IMO this is the one thing that Bruce did right - he didn't back down or cave in to Trent's greedy demands. As far as I know, he was insisting on a first plus something (which was absolutely fair for a player with 2 years left on his deal), but no team came close to that. Although there were reports last year that teams were offering first rounders, Keim and others have reported that that wasnt true. Likely, these were false reports put out there by the team to drive up interest. But we never got a first round offer.

I thought the Browns offered a 1st before the season started last year

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I thought the Browns offered a 1st before the season started last year

Nope - Keim and other beat reporters have debunked that. It was likely a lie bruce put out to drum up interest to try and get another team to actually offer a first. Didn't work. My hunch is that there was likely a time early last year when we could have gotten their 2020 2nd though. Which looks great now. But there was a time last year when the browns looked to be a team on the rise (potentially lower pick in round 2) and the Texans gave up 2 first plus for Tunsil… so I cant really Blame bruce for being firm on a first.

[Chief X_Phackter]

It's always about the money...

[irish]

TW just isn't worth the aggravation anymore.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by irish

TW just isn't worth the aggravation anymore.

Amen. Can't wait for him to be gone.

[VTSkins1961]

F trent - if redskins hold the cards this time - if he sits out the entire year it doesnt accrue on his contact and we still have him for 1 year. That being said I would take 2 3rds for him but i'd wait up until the draft to do it

[mooby]

Originally Posted by VTSkins1961

F trent - if redskins hold the cards this time - if he sits out the entire year it doesnt accrue on his contact and we still have him for 1 year. That being said I would take 2 3rds for him but i'd wait up until the draft to do it

Was literally about to type this out.

With the new CBA if he doesn't report to camp he won't get accrual for the last year of his deal and the fine is 40k/day(team can't wave the fine either). He will be forced to report, and I'm fine with that. I'm with everyone else, he either leaves for a 3rd rounder in a year or we get fair trade value for him.

[Irrefutable]

Tell the agent to STFU or he will sit another year. He needs to lower his contract demands by the draft or he gets nothing.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

Tell the agent to STFU or he will sit another year. He needs to lower his contract demands or he gets nothing.

Exactly. The team has ALL the leverage at this point.

[MTK]

Fuck Bruce he made it personal and wanted to bleed out Trent. Should have traded him.


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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by MTK

Fuck Bruce he made it personal and wanted to bleed out Trent. Should have traded him.


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this was Bruce's coup de grace. He completely mismanaged this from day 1 as expected. Now we are facing an uphill battle to get a solid pick.

IMO they should still hold for a second.

[SunnySide]

According to Charles Robinson of Yahoo Sports, the Cleveland Browns front office is "furious" at the Washington Redskins over the Trent William situation. Specifically, Robinson is reporting the Browns were willing to send a first round pick to Washington for Trent Williams six weeks ago, putting a deal in the middle of September. The Redskins were unwilling to make a deal then, but tried to call the Browns back before the trade deadline, hoping they could still get that first round pick. The Browns refused. essentially hanging up the phone on them.

The biggest part of the story is going to be the dumpster fire located in Ashburn, Virginia, but the takeaway should be the fact that Browns general manager John Dorsey was fully prepared to mortgage a significant asset in a horrible trade. Six weeks ago, the trade was still a horrible idea.
https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/news/c...trent-williams

reported that the Browns offered a 1st.

reported that that report was not accurate

meh ... get a 2nd if you can or 2 3rds and move on.

Really curious what Trents asking potential teams in terms of contract. If we wants 20 AAV ... teams wouldnt give us a 4th for that.