Free Agent WRs

[celts32]

I like these guys in order...

1)Reggie Wayne Ind- He's the best on the list but to expensive.
2)Eric Moulds Buf- I think he has a lot of football left in him. We also have a lot of youth at the skill positions and would not be hurt by a veteran influence.
3)Joe Jurevicius Sea- Solid pick up with a big frame to move the chains.
4)Kevin Curtis- fast...good player...not sure he's a great compliment to Moss but he's real good.
5)Josh Reed Buf- potential but riskier than the others.
6)Antwaan Randle El Pit- Not sure he's consistent enough to be a #2 but brings alot of other value to the table.
7)Jabar Gaffney Hou- I like him...he would be an upgrade at #2.
8)Koren Robinson Min- Worth a shot if we can't get the others.


RFA’s

1)Brandon Lloyd SF/ I like him alot but the tender will be way to high. San fran is so completely void of talent that they would be crazy to let him go.

[MTK]

The counter has been working fine, not sure what you've been watching offiss but we still run it quite regularly and with success. Thomas is one of the best pullers in the league.

[Sociofan]

Year Team G Rec Yds Y/G Avg Lng YAC 1stD TD
2005-06 St. Louis 14 102 1331 95.1 13.0 44 2.4 63 9 (Torry Holt)
2005-06 Seattle 13 67 778 59.8 11.6 56 4.1 43 3 (Bobby Engram)
2005-06 Arizona 16 103 1409 88.1 13.7 47 3.7 67 10 (Larry Fitzgerald)
2005-06 San Diego 16 57 725 45.3 12.7 49 3.0 35 3 (Eric Parker)
2005-06 Oakland 16 76 942 58.9 12.4 49 3.4 45 5 (Jerry Porter)
2005-06 New Orleans 16 70 945 59.1 13.5 43 3.8 50 7 (Donte Stallworth)
2005-06 Indianapolis 16 83 1055 65.9 12.7 66 3.8 54 5 (Reggie Wayne)
2005-06 Houston 16 55 492 30.8 8.9 29 2.3 31 2 (Jabbar Gaffney)
2005-06 Cincinnati 14 78 956 68.3 12.3 43 4.1 52 7 (TJ Houshmanzadeh)
2005-06 NY Giants 16 60 684 42.8 11.4 37 2.7 37 7 (Amani Toomer)
2005-06 New England 13 59 738 56.8 12.5 40 3.9 32 2 (David Givens)


Someone asked what I expected from a #2. Here is a sample (somewhat random) of #2s (who played an entire season or nearly so) from top of the league to bottom and their outputs. Nearly all of them had better numbers than our current #2 was on pace to get. I expect around 60-70 catches from each of the X and Y receivers (spread the wealth from Santana a bit to save his body) and another 50-60 each from the Z and H-Back positions. And for an average 300 completion season, that leaves about 60 more receptions to be spread around with TEs, FBs, and RBs--a balanced attack at all levels of the field, NOT a true vertical game. We need a receiver who can give us that 60 catch season with 800-900 yards. Cooley filled that role this season very well, but he's still an overperforming H-Back. What I expect is a solid receiver who is as feared as the #1 (or nearly so), but doesn't have a hang-up about being "THE Man".

[SkinsLB5607]

http://www.washtimes.com/sports/2006...5943-8513r.htm

[memphisskin]

We definitely need a threat at #2, but I'm against going out and finding a free agent to fill that void. I thought we filled that last year with David Patten, and that kind of knee jerk reaction is typical of what we've done in past years. We need to find a way to get other guys the ball, but just finding another wideout is not the answer. We've got to stop trying to find the quick fix, and while I'm definitely for bringing in a big, physical wideout to balance out our offense I don't see why Taylor Jacobs can't be molded to fit that. I know he's been snakebitten by injuries every year he's been with us, but I'd much rather see us go after a pass rushing defensive end who help get us into blitzing situations than to bring in yet another wideout who will most certainly damage our cap situation and still may not help in the long run. Let's run the guys we've got instead of pining away over someone who may not even be the answer.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by SkinsLB5607

http://www.washtimes.com/sports/2006...5943-8513r.htm

Ahh, I see you're from Niagara Falls. Gmanc, Daseal and I were up there during Christmas. We frequented a place you might recognize, Sundowner's (and pretty much every bar in town).

[SkinsLB5607]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Ahh, I see you're from Niagara Falls. Gmanc, Daseal and I were up there during Christmas. We frequented a place you might recognize, Sundowner's (and pretty much every bar in town).

LOL

[Sociofan]

Originally Posted by SkinsLB5607

http://www.washtimes.com/sports/2006...5943-8513r.htm

Wow! I didn't realize the cap situation was already so bad.

Maybe we can get Charley Taylor and Roy Jefferson to suit up for the league minimum.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

It's mainly because Taylor Jacobs is a pansy that lacks killer instinct. I was all for giving him his chance and he blow ALL of them. Time to cut our losses and find someone in FA or the draft.

[Redskins_P]

Can someone find the quote where Jacobs said he was being covered by 2, 4.4 speed corners and there was nothing he could do?

TAFKAS, can you find it for me?

I mean right there should tell you that he doesn't belong in the NFL. You gotta have some swagger and confidence to be a WR at this level.

[gusbus]

I think I'll give it a try

UFA’s

1)David Givens NE - Probably a little overrated, rather draft someone
2)Reggie Wayne Ind - be nice but too much $$, probably won't leave Indy
3)Josh Reed Buf - Actually could be good lost out to Evans, change of scene?
4)Randy Hymes Bal - No thanks
5)Antonio Bryant Cle - Character issues (remember Riggins), cheap only
6)Antwaan Randle El Pit - Overrated, don't think he is what Joe wants
7)Eric Moulds Buf - good short term fix. Strong possession WR w/ speed
8)Joe Jurevicius Sea - Not leaving Sea unless big $$$
9)Peter Warrick Sea - Played while in Sea, cheap only
10)Jabar Gaffney Hou - Could be good, may want out of Hou
11)Rod Gardner Car - Not on your life
12)Corey Bradford Hou - see #10
13)Kevin Johnson Det - No Way
14)Peerless Price Dal - Could relive Buf days, cheap only
15)Dez White Atl - No , been a bust
16)Koren Robinson Min - Ilike the idea, think it could work.
17)Quincy Morgan Pit - cheap only check out injury.
18)Az-Zhair Hakim NO - No one hit wonder
19)Tim Carter NYG - No thanks
20)David Boston Mia - Washington is a Drug free work place
21)Ike Hillard TB - I like this idea but don't think he will leave TB
22)Troy Brown NE - No Thanks
23)Tim Dwight NE - Too old
24)Jerome Pathon Atl - One hit wonder
25)Charles Lee Ari - Actually solid young receiver
26)Marc Boerighter KC - gets hurt every year, cheap only
27)Reggie Swinton Ari - No thanks
28)Troy Walters Ind - No thanks
29)Patrick Johnson Bal - No thanks

RFA’s

1)Brandon Lloyd SF - Won't leave with Norv on board.
2)Patrick Crayton Dal - Tuna likes him too much to let him leave to WAS
3)Nate Burleson Min - No thanks
4)Eddie Drummond Det-KR - No thanks
5)Kevin Walter Cin - No thanks
6)Shaun McDonald Stl - No thanks
7)Willie Ponder NYG - No thanks
8)Kevin Curtis Stl -- probably will NOT be let go by STL
9)Kelley Washington Cin - I like this idea but I would give up much
10)David Tyree NYG - No thanks
11)Derick Armstrong Hou - No thanks
12)Kaseem Osgood SD - No thanks
13)Arnaz Battle SF - No thanks
14)Chris Horn KC - No thanks
15)Bryan Gilmore Mia - No thanks

[FRPLG]

Hard to decide because Lewis has done well and is still doing well but Williams made a good efense out of MUCH less talent than Lewis ever had. Our defense was ok when Lewis was here but it wasn't a game changing defense like it has been the last 2. I am not totally sold on Williams as a head coach but he can coordinate my defense any day.

[Gibbs'IllegitChild]

what...nobody would like to see david boston as a skin?

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Gibbs'IllegitChild

what...nobody would like to see david boston as a skin?

ANWAGT

Put this idea on the scrap heap along with trading for TO and bringing Coles back.

[Gibbs'IllegitChild]

listen...not wanting TO is crazy...hes a headache, but hes the best at his position...do u wanna win or do u want a "happy camp"