Handcuffed by a Dumbass

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

5 pages dedicated to a non-issue... he's going to be fine.

Must be the offseason.

Someone should start a LaVar thread. That should make you feel better.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

Someone should start a LaVar thread. That should make you feel better.

I'm sure there are plenty of those on the way once he finally drops his asking price to a more reasonable figure and signs somewhere.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

5 pages dedicated to a non-issue... he's going to be fine.

Must be the offseason.

If we passed on discussing non-issues around here, we'd have very little to talk about this time of year. It's just a discussion on the principle of the matter.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

Actually, I would LOVE to compare these. Got some numbers???

That Guy is right. The golf club in the head thing? That's so absurd it makes me laugh. What's the probability that's going to happen to you if you go golfing? Tearing an ACL running on the beach? Just going for a jog right? Still extremely, absurdly low probability.

Getting on an ATV, much higher probability of injury. Maybe not as high for you, since you have tons of experience with it. For you it's probably relatively safe. But you also don't make a million dollars a year. No matter how good you are at it, and how careful you are with it, it's still dumb to risk losing your MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

If you want to assess how risky something is, simply look at an insurance premium to cover it. What costs more, the medical coverage on your Auto policy, or the medical coverage on your motorcycle policy? It's a no brainer. The motorcycle coverage costs more because it's riskier to your health than a car is. Cut and dry, those are facts you can look up instead of goofy probabilities of tearing an ACL while running on the beach.

You're also not simply concerned with the probabilty that an injury will occur. You also have to concern yourself with how bad the injury will be if I do get hurt. Running on the beach and tearing an ACL, though absurdly improbable, would put you out of work for a year. Flipping an ATV could paralyze you.

I'll argue this until I'm blue in the face. It comes down to people choosing "fun" over "smart". Rabach chose "fun", so I'm calling him dumb.

[steveo395]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

A regular joe risks his regular joe salary when he rides ATVs. He could get hurt an not be able to make it back to his 9-5.

A football player risks his NFL salary (for many it's in the millions) when he rides ATVs. BIG difference.

Rabach is already a millionaire and doesnt need money nearly as much as an average joe who needs each and every paycheck to get by. If somebody with a regular job couldn't work anymore, they would be a lot more screwed than an NFL player who is already a millionaire

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by steveo395

Rabach is already a millionaire and doesnt need money nearly as much as an average joe who needs each and every paycheck to get by. If somebody with a regular job couldn't work anymore, they would be a lot more screwed than an NFL player who is already a millionaire

OK now you're talking about something completely dehabilitating, like paralyzing yourself. In that case you're right, the NFL player has more money saved and could get by easier than the average joe.

But if we're talking about risking paralysis, then getting on an ATV is stupid for ANYBODY. But that's besides the point.

There are countless other injuries that would ruin a football career, but still allow the average joe to sit at his desk and do his job.

[steveo395]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

OK now you're talking about something completely dehabilitating, like paralyzing yourself. In that case you're right, the NFL player has more money saved and could get by easier than the average joe.

But if we're talking about risking paralysis, then getting on an ATV is stupid for ANYBODY. But that's besides the point.

There are countless other injuries that would ruin a football career, but still allow the average joe to sit at his desk and do his job.

you said "A regular joe risks his regular joe salary when he rides ATVs. He could get hurt an not be able to make it back to his 9-5."
so i guess you were talking about paralysis there too?

[Pocket$ $traight]

This is idiotic. You could get in your car and drive to a 7-11 and get killed in a car wreck. You could be walking to work and someone loses control and runs over you.

Shoulda, coulda, woulda....who gives a shit. The guy has the right to get on an ATV if he wants. No one in this chatroom has the right to tell anyone what they should be doing and the bottom line is that he will be fine.

And by the way. Don't football players, especially, risk paralysis every time they suit up?

You are going to criticize a football player for riding an ATV?

[GoSkins!]

I dont think that I want to take sides on this issue. I can see both viewpoints. I do wonder, after the Winslow incident, if Rabach had anything specifically written into his contract that disallowed this type of riding? Heck, after the Taylor incident, the skins may have to start writing contracts that have a no-ATV-ownership clause.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

This is idiotic. You could get in your car and drive to a 7-11 and get killed in a car wreck. You could be walking to work and someone loses control and runs over you.

Shoulda, coulda, woulda....who gives a shit. The guy has the right to get on an ATV if he wants. No one in this chatroom has the right to tell anyone what they should be doing and the bottom line is that he will be fine.

And by the way. Don't football players, especially, risk paralysis every time they suit up?

You are going to criticize a football player for riding an ATV?

Since you went and threw in the term idiotic, I assume it's open season with the verbage up in here now. Your post is downright stupid.

Point number 1 - you could get killed in a car wreck on your way to 7-11. Yes you could. But you're a lot more likely to get hurt on an ATV than you are on a car. That's why medical insurance premiums for motorbikes are higher than for cars.

Point number 2 - I'm not trying to tell anyone what they can or can't do. I never said there was anything contractually preventing Rabach from riding an ATV. There's nothing illegal about it. I respect that it's his decision to make. All I'm doing is criticizing him for making a poor decision. He can choose what he wants to do, but guess what, I'm free to judge him on his decisions if I want to.

Point number 3 - Football players get paid to risk paralysis every time they suit up. If they didn't suit up and risk the paralysis, they wouldn't earn the millions of dollars. If they don't hop on an ATV, they don't risk paralysis, AND they keep their million dollar salary.

Yes I'm going to criticize a football player for riding an ATV. By doing so he's jeopardizing his ability to play football in the future, which is precisely what allows him to earn millions per year.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by steveo395

you said "A regular joe risks his regular joe salary when he rides ATVs. He could get hurt an not be able to make it back to his 9-5."
so i guess you were talking about paralysis there too?

Yes, I was talking about the kind of injury that would completely dehabilitate you. A football player would lose his ability to play football by, say, shattering a kneecap. With that same shattered kneecap, a regular joe would still be able to sit at his desk and answer the phone, he'd just need a cane or a wheelchair to get him to work.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

From what I know about Rabach, he's a big hunter.

And please!!!! whatever he does don't go hunting with Dick Cheney.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Since you went and threw in the term idiotic, I assume it's open season with the verbage up in here now. Your post is downright stupid.

Point number 1 - you could get killed in a car wreck on your way to 7-11. Yes you could. But you're a lot more likely to get hurt on an ATV than you are on a car. That's why medical insurance premiums for motorbikes are higher than for cars.

Point number 2 - I'm not trying to tell anyone what they can or can't do. I never said there was anything contractually preventing Rabach from riding an ATV. There's nothing illegal about it. I respect that it's his decision to make. All I'm doing is criticizing him for making a poor decision. He can choose what he wants to do, but guess what, I'm free to judge him on his decisions if I want to.

Point number 3 - Football players get paid to risk paralysis every time they suit up. If they didn't suit up and risk the paralysis, they wouldn't earn the millions of dollars. If they don't hop on an ATV, they don't risk paralysis, AND they keep their million dollar salary.

Yes I'm going to criticize a football player for riding an ATV. By doing so he's jeopardizing his ability to play football in the future, which is precisely what allows him to earn millions per year.

Keep trying to tell everyone how they should live their life, Hillary...

As long as he doesn't get burned on a stunt I couldn't care less.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Keep trying to tell everyone how they should live their life, Hillary...

As long as he doesn't get burned on a stunt I couldn't care less.

Again, I'm not telling anyone what to do. I don't get what's so hard to understand here. I just think it's stupid.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Again, I'm not telling anyone what to do. I don't get what's so hard to understand here. I just think it's stupid.

Is the point of being flithy freaking rich??? F that, if I had that kinda money I would be doing bungee jumps off Anacostia bring. You seriously cant expect someone to conform to what you think is "smart". The guy was having fun, and there are plently of things that are more dangerous than ATVs, and that pt has been made, yet you ignore it. I am sure anyone at thewarpath, would ride on ATVs if they were on Skins. Now if your a lil scaredy cat and you dnt want to ride ATVs, then thats ok, thats your personal opinion of what is "smart". People get hurt all the time for alot of other things. Does that make them stupid as well(for playing bball, swiming, playing with their kids, etc???). Oh no during the offseason all players should just be put into a lil box, and feed with a tube. That should solve the problem, or better yet why dont we have the players stay at Skins park 24/7!! That would solve the problem entirely, just take away their life. This argument has more crap in it then the DonJohn across the street.